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post #1 of 17 Old 04-24-2012, 08:09 PM - Thread Starter
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So I've got a basic home theater set up in my garage (yes, I'm installing sound deadening material to try to improve the quality of the sound ) and so far it's gone nicely, except for the big problem of feeding my Blu-ray player through my CRT projector. It's an 82" screen, built from blackout curtain material, and produces a clean image for all the test signals. I'm just torn between going the HDFury route, or using a Moome external converter.

This is one of those moments where I'm just not wrapping my head around some basic concept I'm sure, but I can't decide which would be optimal for my set up. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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THe Moome definitely has better RGB processing in it, but I'm not sure if you'll see the difference on an ECP. Still, if you want to upgrade to a higher end CRT projector, it would be good to spend the extra few $$ on the Moome.

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THe Moome definitely has better RGB processing in it, but I'm not sure if you'll see the difference on an ECP. Still, if you want to upgrade to a higher end CRT projector, it would be good to spend the extra few $$ on the Moome.

Curt makes a good point. I would have trouble dropping $350. on a moome card for a $100. projector. Still, if you get a MArquee down the road it will be worth having the better moome box.

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Eventually I would like to upgrade to a somewhat sexier projector (or at least one that I don't need to build a heavy beast of a media shelving unit for since the wife won't let me mount it), but for the next couple of years I'm going to stick with the ECP and keep improving the theater and bar builds.

Now I've heard tales of woe involving hd signals and these older CRTs not being able to keep up with the refresh rate at higher resolutions. Is that going to be a problem with either of these devices?
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Nope, but to get into a 'sexier' projector, figure on twice the size and weight.

What I don't ever really get is the fear of the projector dropping. You're putting far more pressure on floorboards if a 200 lb man stands with his feet together than a 120 lb projector mounted over 2-3 studs on a ceiling.

Tell the wife that she's insulting your manhood if she doesn't trust your 'mounting' skills!


(sorry, was that too risque?)

Definitely, consider the ECP a starting point though. Learn the set, love it, and then move to at least an 8" EM focusing set.

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What I don't ever really get is the fear of the projector dropping.

Umm, because a few projectors have fallen?
There have been a few postings over the years of fallen PJs here. Since I have a 6PG+, I paid attention to the NEC that was mounted on the ceiling using the threaded holes (for the feet) that gave out; I.E. the manufacturer's ceiling mounting plate was not used.

Also my house is built with floor joists using 2x10, whereas the ceiling joists are only 2x4. That's a big difference in load capacity. And if you drill big holes for bolts/screws into those 2x4s, then they will be weakened.

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Could always sister a few boards together. It works awesome. I have my 8500 and chief motorized lift (bought from curt) ~275lbs all hanging from 2x4s and lags.
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My 15 year old Electrohome Marquee 8500 can display all the HD signals that my year old plasma can.
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Umm, because a few projectors have fallen?
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What I don't ever really get is the fear of the projector dropping after it's been properly mounted

Using the wrong holes in the chassis or Lag bolts that are "stupid-big" has nothing to do with whether hanging 150 pounds from a ceiling is safe. Anything that is installed wrong is dangerous. Includes the cabinets in your kitchen, your stove, water heater, furnace, etc.
A handful of 5/16ths lag-bolts with a 3/16ths pilot hole will not hurt any floor joist and more than enough to hold up the machine.

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EXACTLY if the Pj is installed correctly it donest matter if its a 150lb CRT projector or my 30lb DILA it will be perfectly fine for years hanging.

Same is true for somone trying to use toggle blots in sheet rock to do the same job. Maby it will hold for a while but sooner or later there will be a loud CRASH and its usually at 3am in the morning when everyone is sleeping and the house is quiet as a mouse if you dont hang a projector correctly your in for it no matter how big, heavy it is or it isnt.
Get a professional to do the job if you really cant do it your self or are unsure what to do! Save your self the trouble and your projector from being a pile of broken plastic and glass.
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Sadly, no number of reassurances are winning my lady over. Still, I got the theater and bar I wanted to build, so I know better than to complain, lol.

So it felt like the verdict was that the Moome card has greater long term viability?
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Yes. The moome card is the way to go.
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Awesome. I've got the card on its way, and I'm mounting the speakers tonight. Feeling all accomplished.
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On a related side note, how long should I expect to wait for the Moome card to get here?
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So, maybe I'm an idiot but, I got the Moome card connected and for some reason I've got the image triplicated horizontally. Each looks good, though squeezed. And I'm damned if I can figure out what I've done wrong. The input is a DVD, 4:3 contrast ratio. The lack of manual or instructions in the packaging make moments like this trying...

Clarification: it's tripled if I force the H Hold on the CRT to one or two, otherwise there's an appropriately sized image that jumps around like a crazy mofo. I realize how incredibly newbie I sound asking this, but this is how I learn, lol. My inkling is something to do with the Hz rate, but I'm not sure how to get the Moome card to change its output.
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Make sure you are NOT sending the projector 1080P of any flavor. It can't do it. Set your HD output to 1080I.

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