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Screenshot CRT vs Digital 2015-2016

Screenshots are usually just bull, but CRT vs Digital will show differences clearly.




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2. Use an upload site that keeps Exif data intact to check no software processing being used. image.org for example.
3. Minimum size 16/9 2999x2000/ 235:1 2999x1000 res to make a comparison.
4. For comparing to see more side by side without a lot of black, remove top and bottom in picture. Because they will and have to be removed to get the pictures close for comparison.
5. The shots should be posted one on top of the other to avoid degrading them by either shrinking or scaling up. Both can break up the structure of the image after it' initial resizing.















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Those pictures are not even 1080p cutouts, instead 1366x768...
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Those pictures are not even 1080p cutouts, instead 1366x768...
I cut away blackbars quality is the same. and also converted to jpg
size to big.

Between digital projectors the difference is small shown in screenshots.
But CRT is so far from quality HD that you see the difference even on a iPhone or a ipad. Then detail sharpness, debt, clearness, lifelike.
Seen together side by side like I have done many times is just hilarious. But if someone manages to get a screenshot close to the digital I will be impressed. Here a Sony and a JVC dont remember what is who.



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JVC Compared to CRT Newest Modded
4 years ago I compared the Tech is this as good as its got?
Show me better if you think this is unrepresentative -
Will not reply to the usual suspects only interested in the best picture.


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I guess the JVC is on top.

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JVC samples from Samsara if any CRT owners would like a challenge.....





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JVC Compared to CRT Newest Modded
4 years ago I compared the Tech is this as good as its got?
Show me better if you think this is unrepresentative -
Will not reply to the usual suspects only interested in the best picture.


The JVC seems some kind of over sharpened ?!

4K Ultra HD
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Just one
Oh Michone

IMG_0369 by Radio Head, on Flickr

IMG_0371 by Radio Head, on Flickr

Tv series 1800MB canon powershot 8 MPix

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The JVC seems some kind of over sharpened ?!
Unreal. Look like someone got an algorithm to draw colours in a wild mosaic but has so little to do with the world scene that it is supposed to reproduce.

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No Samsara takers? Perhaps the Digital set the Bar too high will look at Baraka tonight and select some scenes your CRTs can cope with
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Oh Michone

IMG_0369 by Radio Head, on Flickr

IMG_0371 by Radio Head, on Flickr

Tv series 1800MB canon powershot 8 MPix

This is a DIGITAL (CINE9) projector, right ?

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Nope but has the HFQ900 lenses and my Cine 9 looks exactly the same. I just improved on the typical CRT look that comes with simplicity in the video chain and tubes and some more stuff. But if you can not get it simple you have to do something else. One day I am going to mod a digital again. My Hd350 was not bad too after some changes.

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X90 Full JPG Quality Baraka samples - New Free Nikon Image Space
Click on Slideshow - Mute that Music - Cropped in camera - Exif Data Intact.

https://nis.nikonimagespace.com/html...thpZ1uGCesxVXM

No code to preview full quality here. May test later.


I will add (as this is a CRT vs Digital screenshot War thread)
Any Super Modded Triple wammy CRT think they got me beat post same

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Good-natured ribbing is one thing. But there's a line where that becomes insulting. To that point, posts have been removed and infractions issued. No more bickering at all.

If this is going to be a screenshot thread, then post the screenshots along with the technical information related to that screenshot.

Walking the fine line between jaw-dropping and a plain ol' yawn.

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Thread rolled back to my prior post and reopened.

Walking the fine line between jaw-dropping and a plain ol' yawn.

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JVC X90 sample from Baraka
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JVC X90 a CRT favourite around the net - may grab some and compare if no CRT owners are willing to share the look of their Modded Machines.
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well I could care less about the CRT vs. digital debate that's been going on since before I joined years ago but , if you really want my honest opinion the second picture looks a little flat with less contrast and lower color saturation

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Screenshots are usually just bull, but CRT vs Digital will show differences clearly.





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Here shots from the JVC x500 with Canon EOS 450D





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JVC X90 Baraka sample.
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JVC X90 Lucy



JVC X90


CRT VDC Marquee 9553LC Ultra, Moome V3 MP mods Sourced off AVforums.


JVC X90

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Close up of the above....


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The CRT looks a lot better than I would have thought in comparison to the JVC. I wonder if the CRT was calibrated.

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CRT same as above


JVC X90
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Is moome still offering cards for CRT. I bought a few from him years for my CRT which I have not turned on in years. One of these days I will have to fire it up again to see if it still works. Nothing touches CRT today except in terms of brightness. JVC and Sony is getting very close and close enough for many.
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Forgot to mention I have a Marquee 9"
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Is moome still offering CRT mods. I bought a few cards from him years ago I have a Marquee I have not fired up in years. Im scared to turn it on but it worked last time I used it.
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Thank you Curt it is good to see CRT is still alive.
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The thing that I have noticed over time watching digital projection as opposed to my CRT projector is I believe I am watching the sharpness as if its feature like color or color depth. This is something I certainly don't do with my CRT projector. Don't get me wrong I want my CRT as sharp as I can get it but that sharpness is not part of the viewing experience. With digital I find I am looking at the edges of abjects constantly perhaps its because those edges are so sharp compared to whatever is behind the object.

Doing the same thing over and over expecting the end result to be different just proves you're an idiot.
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With a jvc x500/700 and all processing defeated. It is very very natural and clearly more defined and detailed compared to a crt. No hint of artificial sharpness at all.
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