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from dvhs the gradiation problem was almost unnoticable. Likely the problem on wm9 coral reef was more wm9 than the dlp, which is good for the dlp, since this was really quite bad on wm9 coral reef. likely "video expansion to PC"
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Has anyone performed the hand-puppet test?
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black detail is about the same, or perhaps slightly better on the dlp, in terms of light spill in the crt
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im seeing a little rainbow.
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I see a little rainbow on my CRT RPTV. :)
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blacklevel was too high, we're now fiddling with grayscale, curt pointed out that it was yellow
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The gloves are off. As good as the videos look, the gray scale is off to my eyes with Guy's AVIAPro disc.

Guy is getting out the colorimeter..:)

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we're setting up a light meter now to measure the light output and get the grayscale right.
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from dvhs the gradiation problem was almost unnoticable. Likely the problem on wm9 coral reef was more wm9 than the dlp, which is good for the dlp, since this was really quite bad on wm9 coral reef. likely "video expansion to PC"
Didn't they use the same source for both the CRT and DLP? If it was the source, wouldn't there also have been banding on the CRT?
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guy tried to explain this. Since we were sending dvi to the dlp, this introduces problem in translating the video info into the digital realm without enough steps. This problem wouldn't be apparent going to the crt with analog. perhaps he will post later with a better explanation.
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Bob, I think any dithering now is acceptable with this color wheel. You have to get within a few feet to see it.

how about juddery pans?

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Curt, you think you are going in with an open mind?
Terry and Wanman, you got to set this up in Atlanta with that G90 you have in your shop!
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guy tried to explain this. Since we were sending dvi to the dlp, this introduces problem in translating the video info into the digital realm without enough steps. This problem wouldn't be apparent going to the crt with analog. perhaps he will post later with a better explanation.
I'll have to claim ignorance on this - my own of course :) I thought DVI was the holy grail...digital signal from end to end with no analog conversion.
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In short form...is it agreed that the HT1000 isn't quite "there" yet??
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Yes, I am going in with an open mind, but I'm also having a bit of fun.

I've aslog to my conclusion formed, but won't post it until the end..

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Your right, the HT1000 isn't in the house.
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you mean it's still a definite step below crt?
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Are there any neutral parties at this shootout? You know...someone who doesn't have a stake in either CRT or digital, and is seeing both FP formats for the first time.?
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were not comparing the ht1000, we;re using the sharp 11k
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Ben,
Guy has already posted in the past that in some ways he prefers his HT1000 image. They (HT1000 and CRT) are really two very different images. If you think your 5700 looks good with HD you should see the HT1000. The CR of the HT1000 is well above the 5700.

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Curt, you think you are going in with an open mind?
Terry and Wanman, you got to set this up in Atlanta with that G90 you have in your shop!
No! Its to be a 9500LC with Mike Parker playing the evening's God. And while I know Terry and Mike will make the best out of the situation (Mike's bringing his HTPC), i fear the ability to acquire and calibrate the Sharp. Fingers are crossed, though.
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WE do have a newbie here. He finds the Sharp to be....sharper (groan), but also likes the CRT. We've been watching the DLP for over an hour now, and Guy is still adjusting the white balance, but we'll be switching back to CRT at som e point.

I'm going to have to split within the hour, but will post when get back to Vancouver tonight,

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Keyser, I sold my 5700 and now I'm painfully trying to figure out if I want an HT1000 or a crt....
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Keyser, I sold my 5700 and now I'm painfully trying to figure out if I want an HT1000 or a crt....
Beeno - so you gave up on the CRT setup? Going back to DLP???

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Ever since the checkerboard pattern went up from the AVIA disc I see rainbows...

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robert, will do exactly that when i take my empties in,hehehe...........

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Ben, Yes, I know that you sold it to your brother.
I was just pointing out the difference between the 5700 & the HT1000.
(And letting you know what Guy has posted about the HT1000 in the past.)

Although Guy was using S-video and a smaller screen (around 70") I believe. DVI from something like the Momitsu should be much better. IMHO

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Ever since the checkerboard pattern went up from the AVIA disc I see rainbows...

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It's not looking good, guys (digitalers that is). In fact it's looking like we're going to have a 1 - 1 series here unless the Sharp can hit a home run in the 9th. (or get the puck in the net for you Canadians)
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Curt, I have decided to classify DLP rainbows as a digital convergence problem. Just because one cannot discern a convergence problem doesn't mean it does not exist. Unfortunately, I can discern them and now so can you!
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