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Clarance,

Good, your primary colors will be more accurate and the grey scale will track flatter. A good investment in your G90.

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Once your screen reaches a very large size, you might as well just eliminate it. Think of the possibilities. Just aim your projector through a window and shoot it into the sky. A northern exposure is he only safe choice because you do not want any sun entering the lenses. Severe damage to your projector will result.


Ok. You have your baby aiming into the sky. You can play with the controls endlessly. Calibration? Shamilbration. Set anything you want. You know best. Now if ANYONE criticizes your set up, just give them an ice cold beer and a few puffs on what you are smoking. Oh yea, there is no guarantee that you won't be seeing rainbows. BWTF. Nothing wrong with rainbows in this situation. Oh severe munchies often arise when viewing under these circumstances so be prepared.

BTW. I'll be keeping my 110" screen. I prefer it to the above set up, but hey that's just me.

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Clarence ,
Will you be using a gain screen ?

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Yeah that one cliff.....NICE

I got mine banned, so did Z and some others - I then got told off by Alan in my own thread recently.

Still I will have another one soon once the dust settles.


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Clarence,
If you want gain, then you could do a horizontal curved screen like deronmopeds. You could try out Ken's new goo silver 3D paint. That should be able to hold up to the demands of young kids.

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.....or build a torus...

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Yeah count me in too, It's been awhile since I've seen a G90 in action.

How does the low end compare?

Congratulations on a very serious upgrade!
Thanks Mike.

I'm VERY impressed with the gamma detail from this beast. I can't wait for you to check it out. The low end seems fine. I noticed some slight streaking tonight on white credits scrolling on a black background, but I haven't noticed it in any typical scenes (which I saw regularly on my M8000).

I just can't get over the focus.

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If you want gain, then you could do a horizontal curved screen like deronmopeds. You could try out Ken's new goo silver 3D paint. That should be able to hold up to the demands of young kids.

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As far as I'm concerned, it is already plenty bright... and I've got contrast throttled back. If I eventually go for a screen, it'll be for the consistent surface. I'd stick to 1.3-1.5 gain just to be able to turn contrast down even more.
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Yeah count me in too, It's been awhile since I've seen a G90 in action.

How does the low end compare?

Congratulations on a very serious upgrade!
Thanks Mike.

I'm VERY impressed with the gamma detail from this beast. I can't wait for you to check it out. The low end seems fine. I noticed some slight streaking tonight on white credits scrolling on a black background, but I haven't noticed it in any typical scenes (which I saw regularly on my M8000).

I just can't get over the focus.

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If you want gain, then you could do a horizontal curved screen like deronmopeds. You could try out Ken's new goo silver 3D paint. That should be able to hold up to the demands of young kids.

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As far as I'm concerned, it is already plenty bright... and I've got contrast throttled back. If I eventually go for a screen, it'll be for the consistent surface. I'd stick to 1.3-1.5 gain just to be able to turn contrast down even more.
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Now you're just gloating! ;)

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Time for a "new" avatar. I would suggest a screenshot of the G90 projecting a picture of the G90. :D

Now thats gloating.... :eek:
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Thanks Mike.

I'm VERY impressed with the gamma detail from this beast. I can't wait for you to check it out. The low end seems fine. I noticed some slight streaking tonight on white credits scrolling on a black background, but I haven't noticed it in any typical scenes (which I saw regularly on my M8000).
That's unusual for a G90, at least from what I remember from the one that I saw. I'll bet that problem is source related, because the G90 that I saw had only a very slight pixel smear, very much like what's common on the Marquees.

The higher end CRT projectors are too easy to show up flaws in cables and source devices. Sometimes a cable will look perfectly crimped, and will also work well on a lower end projector, but the moment you connect a higher end projector into the same system, it'll let you know that you have a problem in your system (cables, connectors, processors, etc).


Let me know when you get your new source in. I know John would also like to come down with me.

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I don't know why, but this thread has made me more envious of G90 ownership than any other.
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Another Option:

1. Get an older iPaq, from e-bay series 39xx works fine.

2. load this program on it
http://www.pdawin.com/tvremote.html

3. get already available CCF files for the G90 from remotecentral.com (not sure if they have ones for G90 but they had one for 12xx series). If they do not you can quickly make one by borrowing someone's remote for a day or two and having the tvremote "learn" the commands.

4. Modify/add the CCFs to add pages for all components you have and you have a color touchscreen remote for around $100

Or do it the expensive way and get a Pronto Color for like $1000 :eek:
I've got a color Jornada kicking around the house somewhere... I gave it to my 6-year-old because it was too bulky to carry around in addition to a cell phone. But it'd make a good size for a color, backlit, touch-screen remote.

I'll buy the original Sony remote from bebop to setup the G90, but one day I'll have to look into coding all of my components into one of these PDAs.
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These pictures are for Cliff after our phone conversation last night...

I removed the lenses to get a better look at the tubes. I can't see any wear on Blue or Red.

Here's a good shot of the Green, representative of what I see...


And this is the worst that I could make it look; by using a separate LED light...


On the screen I can't see any transition from wear to the outside phosphor when I max the raster size.

Not too shabby. I think I can get a few more hours out of these instead of replacing it before getting it calibrated.

I've got the wireless remote, new c-elements, an IFB-12 component card for input-B, moome's DVI/component IFB for input C, and a Snazio player for HD playback.
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That baby was definitely setup properly Clarence at least on the raster usage :^)

You should be fine.......

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Wow I think you are the first guy that has taken apart his G90 and posted pictures!

Any unusual procedure or precautions to take when removing the lenses?

Will you be doing the C-element on you own? If yes can you post pictures to the procedure (maybe some before and after screen shots too - to show difference)?

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Taking the HD10F's off was easy... 4 screwbolts at 2/4/8/10 o'clock.

Terry said we can do the c-elements together... it'll take less than an hour... I'll have the G90 lowered using the chains... take the lenses off as pictured above... point the lenses up level to the ceiling... undo the 8 allen bolts... lift up the c-element... catch the last drip of glycol... insert the new c-element... retighten the allen bolts.

I've got (3) 24 oz bottles of glycol just in case we need to swap it.
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Green looks pretty good. You should be able to live with it for quite a long time.

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Terry,
Where the hell are you! I am almost ready for you to hang MY G-90. The room has come a long way in the last 2 weeks. Hope you are winnning some hands!

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Maggie Guy,

Slow down and do a good job!!

I've gone and done it again. Silly me. I made the final table in the WPT Seniors event (man I don't feel or act that old) yesterday after 13.5 hrs of play. We are down to 10 (out of 480 I think??) and resume play today at 4PM. Cross your fingers!! I've got about 50K in chips so I have a shot at this!! But as you know I've been here before and ended up 4th. I guess there is a bit of luck.....all in! Still have not seen A's, K's, Q's, J's or pocket 10's once out of what 350 hands we played. A-K only once but didn't get a call to my raise. I only went all in once and had a call that doubled me up last night to where I am chip wise. It was weird, just slowly adding chips all day. e started with 1500.

Hopefully they will update the results on the site today
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Good luck!

I watched/recorded "Rounders" on the G90 in HD last week with a neighbor... Say hi to KGB for me ;)
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Clarence,

I hope it isn't really that bad, as I would then have to question the wisdom of knocking the light output down further with the C-element swap. Perhaps Terry can chime in on the amount of loss he has measured after a swap.

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Clarence,

I hope it isn't really that bad, as I would then have to question the wisdom of knocking the light output down further with the C-element swap. Perhaps Terry can chime in on the amount of loss he has measured after a swap.

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Yep... it really is that bad (well, maybe not that bad since the first picture:

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/4...0green15ti.jpg

is closer to what I actually see in daylight, and the second picture is the one that made the wear look darkest out of the 25 pictures that I took).

It'll be interesting to measure the light output from my green tube before and after the c-element swap, with all other settings being the same.

But I don't plan on buying a new green tube this week. Nor do I plan on waiting for a calibration until after I get pristine tubes. This G90 with a tube that bad is 472% better than any projector I've ever had. And 129% better than any projector I've ever seen. And I can only hope that it'll be even better after Terry plays with it next week.

But since my projector upgrade days are over for the next few years, I'll keep an eye out for a new tube... in my typical frugal, patient manner. They're out there. I'll find one.

But until then I'll just keep that potential for improvement in my back pocket... knowing that even as I drool over this projected image for the next 1000+ hours, I'll know that eventually it can be even better once I replace a tube that is that bad.
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But I don't plan on buying a new green tube this week. Nor do I plan on waiting for a calibration until after I get pristine tubes. This G90 with a tube that bad is 472% better than any projector I've ever had. And 129% better than any projector I've ever seen. And I can only hope that it'll be even better after Terry plays with it next week.
I was just wondering if it would make more sense to leave the existing C-element in until you get a new tube sometime in the future. I know the color fidelity will be better, but my guess is you'll lose about 10% of your light output. With the size screen you are using, I think you need all the light you can get.

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But I don't plan on buying a new green tube this week. Nor do I plan on waiting for a calibration until after I get pristine tubes. This G90 with a tube that bad is 472% better than any projector I've ever had. And 129% better than any projector I've ever seen. And I can only hope that it'll be even better after Terry plays with it next week.
Wow, it is even better than a MP 9500! That is high praise indeed.

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A few disclaimers before I will say it that way...

The main reason I like this G90 better than any projector I've seen, including MP's 9500s, is because it's MINE :D

Even if my baby is ugly, the parent is naturally desensitized.

Plus, the 9500's I've seen have always had fresh tubes; I'm loving this G90 even though it has 6K hours and a green tube that is that bad.

The M9500 setups have always had sane sized setups <96" on real Stewart screens. So I'm extending the incredible sharpness I'm seeing at 9.5' wide on a wall only painted with Kilz2.

And Mike has always done killer optical and electronic setups on the 9500s I've seen. I've spent less than an hour playing with this G90 setup... it already looks better than any projector I've had, but I don't want to sink too much time into it if Terry is going to DEL *.* next week.

But I'll wait until MP comes for his next visit to take a peek. He'll be too polite to point out the flaws I'm blind to, but I think the colors, black level, brightness, and gamma from this G90 is incredible, even before calibration.
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Clearance ,
Are you and Terry working on your new baby this weekend ?

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Hi Art-

Terry's still winning in his Poker tournament, so he's going to swing through here on his way home next week.

I'm not sure what day that'll be (and neither does he), but I'll take the day off and he's accepted our invitation to hang out here for the night, enjoy dinner and a few drinks, and give us an excuse to celebrate my new baby G90 with the Cuban Cohibas I acquired this summer.
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Terry's still winning in his Poker tournament, so he's going to swing through here on his way home next week.

. . . . .
So THAT explains the avatar he has chosen!!!!

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