Originally Posted by Person99
No, but given his agenda, he'd rather not seek out optomized CRTs to compare with.
Some of this stuff is so funny I wonder if you even believe it yourself.
Originally Posted by Person99
As I said before, if he wants to compare, it should be by price.
If you even understand basic economics you would be able to understand that if a little digital which could be had new for $2k and a CRT that could be had used for $2k put out identical images and people found out about it, the market value of the CRT would plummet. Then you could go back to your argument that it would be unfair to compare those two projectors because the CRT would sell for much less.
You can keep complaining all you want. If you want to compare by price, then go compare by price. But I'm not going to quit looking for the best stuff I can find in the area I can reasonably drive my stuff to no matter how much you complain about how unfair it is to do these. If you want to suggest a well setup CRT (or 2 CRTs) within 2 hours drive of Seattle that I can compare to, please do.
Originally Posted by Person99
You can pretty much get a G90 stack for the price of the Marantz. So, take the Marantz to Art's and compare.
At recent prices I've seen, people can't even get 2 G90s used off ebay for what they could get the Marantz for from AVScience new with a warranty, and that doesn't count any of the other stuff required for a stack. But even besides that, there are people who are willing to believe ridiculous claims in defense of one side or another and your's here is a pretty good test of just what kind of ridiculous things people are willing to believe. Instead of taking an evening and driving to somebody's house who is local so we can compare things, I'm supposed to spend around $600 and probably more getting the myself and my projector halfway across the country and back. And besides that cost and time I am supposed to put in instead of driving to somebody's house some evening, I'm supposed to take a projector that I think is inappropriate for the screen Art has in his theater. His 11' wide screen works well for 2 G90s, but I wouldn't recommend it for one 11S1.
At some point I'll head out to Art's place again. He's a cool guy and I know I would have fun whether I took a projector with me or not. But this accusation where I'm not supposed to drive to somebody's house who is local, but am supposed to fly myself and my stuff halfway across the country, is really stretching to find something to whine about. If Art was local, I would be over there as soon as he had time even though I know the Marantz isn't a good fit for his screen and then I'm sure he would come over to my place to see the Marantz in the setup it is usually in.
In the case here I thought Charles had said the screen was 110" diagonal and not 110" wide, but it didn't make any difference to whether I was going over there or not as I wanted to see his setup and also to compare. I know you don't like us to do these, but many people like to see how one of the new 1080p single chip DLPs compares.
I have already asked on the forum more than once if there is anybody in the Seattle area with a 9" CRT that is well setup that we can compare to. So far the only case that looked promising was somebody with a 9" Marquee who was working with Tim and planning on getting some of Mike Parker's mods. After I mentioned that we might do this, Mike suggested a different plan. Instead of driving to that guy's house, that I pay my own way to fly myself out to where Mike is. I suggested that this guy might be willing to foot the bill if Mike wanted to come out and make sure it looked good, so that somebody would be paying costs for a service instead of either of us paying our own costs. But Mike refused to consider it and instead wanted me to spend my money to go out there.
This whole fantasy Dave has made up of me not seeking out optimized CRTs is pretty funny. Going back and looking at the history, I asked on this forum if I could see a well setup CRT before Dave was even posting here. One guy with a 9" CRT said I could come over and see it. But he was in the middle of building his room, and while I appreciated it, things didn't look all that great under those conditions. So, I asked again. People told me to contact Guy Kuo. So I did. And I offered to bring my Sharp 11k with me so he could see it, instead of being selfish and asking if I could see the CRT without offering anything in return. He then suggested that we compare them. So we did. Later he found an issue with something in there that had kept it from looking its best, although I don't know specifically what that was.
One of the guys there suggested comparing the 11k to his G70 at his place and so that is what we did. We had people from each side there and compared them. And I became friends with the G70 owner and we do comparisons sometimes. I've taken my calibration system there and he spent a while tweaking things with it and I also picked up an HD DVD for him. I would say that the comparisons have helped make his setup better as we see things that can be improved (like shadow detail).
Sometime after that first comparison with the G70, a guy who was one of Mike Parker's customers called me and wanted to see my Qualia 004. He came down and then a couple of weeks later called and said he had been thinking about it a lot. So, we talked about it and I said I would take it there to see how one would work in his room. He had a 9" CRT that had been down with some repairs needed for a while and Curt Palme got it fixed and suggested that we compare the projectors while I was there. This guy had been Mike's customer for years and had gotten stuff from him, as well as had KBK out spending hours trying to get things right. The night before I went there Curt reported that the CRT was looking really good.
So, I go there, setup the sources for the 004 just like I normally would. In about half an hour we start looking at things, and the guy preferred the 004. Then people here tried to figure out why. Mike decides that the problem was that the guy was using a long RGB cable, instead of having his source equipment within 6' of the projector with a short RGB cable as Mike said he should. I find it interesting that the guy had been Mike's customer for years and had tried to get help making things look better, nobody here said anything before the comparison about the CRT looking bad, but after I go there and the guy likes the digital, that seems to go on some list as me searching out poorly setup CRTs. If people want to accuse me of looking for poorly setup CRTs because I went to one of Mike Parker's customer's houses, there isn't much I can do about that.
And as I have said before, if there is anybody within a reasonable distance of Seattle with a well setup 9" CRT who would be willing to do a comparison, please let me know.