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post #181 of 5489 Old 09-04-2007, 06:06 PM
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what you're seeing is distortion. It appears as facial detail, but it's not. And simply because of the EE being clearly shown on her face, that within itself indicates a distorted image.

Now, If you pay close attention to the other areas of the image, you'll also see that same distortion everywhere else in the image. It's not just on her face.




For as dark as the image is, why would you think you're actually seeing freckles?

No doubt you are right but I would have sworn they were freckles only on her face. I just do not see those dark spots on any other parts of the picture. I quess the film grain Spotmatic mentioned must also be due in part to this distortion as well. Still, it is very interesting to me that one projector picks this up so much better than the other.

This could just be an optical illusion on my part and it would be very interesting to see an original frame. But I don't even know where this movie frame came from. Was it one of the "Charlies Angels" film?

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Still, it is very interesting to me that one projector picks this up so much better than the other.

No, it's not that his projector is picking it up better, it more likely the results from his player in the "PAUSE" mode. Some will have a cleaner pause than others. And that's why we've been trying to find ways to do frame freeze.

If you really want to show how well the 909 resolves, take some shots of images with a lot of background detail..

When getting into 1920x1080P, you'll want to show detail. And you'll want to show that same detail with good intrascene contrast (illumination in darker areas). because that's what 1080P HD is really all about.

Here's another shot of Drew from my 8500 using my HP camera:



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No, it's not that his projector is picking it up better, it more likely the results from his player in the "PAUSE" mode. Some will have a cleaner pause than others. And that's why we've been trying to find ways to do frame freeze.

If useing a lumagen scaler you can use the scalers freeze frame sequence but it takes a while and you might miss the scene so you kinda have to plan in advance. The remote sequence is Menu/0/9/0/0.I tried it and it seams cleaner than my LG's which i think isnt that great because my actual screen looks sharper than the my screen shots.

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Ok. So how come I can see facial details in the bottom screenshot that I can not see in the top screenshot? I'm talking about her freckles which are completly crushed out in the top screenshot. Is that what you say is edge enhancement?

It looks like part of Drew Barrrymore to me. BTW what movie is this from anyway?

I honestly like the clarity I see in the bottom screenshot a lot better. And I do not have an ax to grind here its just the way I see it.

Actually, what you see in that screenshot is my camera in night mode. I get the best exposures in night mode so my color tends to "clip", hence the loss of detail.

If you saw my system in person, well, things would be much different.

If a stack is dialed in perfectly, the only loss of resolution that you will get at 1080P is scanlines. Detail remains.

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oops, that's actually the screenshot from the 909 that I copied and posted. I posted it with the intent of using it instead of the Drew Image for a G90 comparison. I was hoping that Cliff would post the same image from the stack.

It's not from my 8500... I'll take one in a few and post back.

Spot's 909


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Maybe tomorrow night, I'll grab a shot.

Tonight though, I'm up to the bedroom to cuddle with the wife.

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Maybe tomorrow night, I'll grab a shot.

Tonight though, I'm up to the bedroom to cuddle with the wife.

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I hear ya big dog! I think Cliffy has the right idea.
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That 909 shows up much better with that clip. Though they are all different, In some ways, it's better than my 8500 and the G90. I'm not surprised. part of the video has my thumb print on it..

That's right, my 909 is fitted with a Mike Parker modded RGB inputboard
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Simply amazing Mike! Shots like those really make me glad I've stuck with CRT

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Very Nice Mike.

Just wanted to comment on that 909. I think it looks f'ing great. If the screenshots are representative of the actual picture, then some greyscale, and some more gamma, and walla.

G90 Stack. Just turned on. Not even warmed up yet.

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Ok, round two. I'm shifting off of Spiderman for a moment.

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Nice screen shots.. makes me want to but an RS2 haha...

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Well done MP! This is my favourite shot so far:



You've changed something haven't you It's amazing how you've managed to capture the textures, the depth of field, and the background details. Look at those natural pastel colours, the level of blacks between the foliage. Things are so crisp and clean, I can see several layers from foreground to background... that's the 3dimensionality that I love when I watch at home. Keep 'em coming!

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Here is the best I can do, I don't have a tri-pod and pete (Z-photo) could really teach me a thing or two. Also my first attempt at imageshack. But here I go anyway.


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I like this screenshot:



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Here is the best I can do, I don't have a tri-pod and pete (Z-photo) could really teach me a thing or two. Also my first attempt at imageshack. But here I go anyway.

















-edit:Ooops....Maybe someone can tell me what I did wrong to get these to show up the way they should have.

They look really good. Do them over, but the next time, go into imageshack and paste from "Hotlink for Forums"

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You've changed something haven't you

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Yummy. That looks awesome Mike!

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One more thing BTW, I don't think it's even worth it to bother with that shot from the Spidey demo. It's a very soft clip in my opinion.

BTW, I set up Art's G90 at 7ft wide tonight on my Da-lite pulldown screen 1.0 gain with Arli. OH MY GOD.

My jaw was on the floor. It is definitely sharper than mine at 10ft wide.

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BTW, I set up Art's G90 at 7ft wide tonight on my Da-lite pulldown screen 1.0 gain with Arli. OH MY GOD.

My jaw was on the floor. It is definitely sharper than mine at 10ft wide.

screenshots!

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screenshots!

LOL. I was thinking the same thing, but we put it away already. My wife has company upstairs and I didn't want to have that thing in the middle of my computer floor.

Don't worry though, you'll get screenshots soon enough.

They will be on a 8ft wide Silverstar.

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They look really good. Do them over, but the next time, go into imageshack and paste from "Hotlink for Forums"

Good Job!!!

Thanks for your help Mike. Thanks to your help I finally figured it out.

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Here is the best I can do, I don't have a tri-pod and pete (Z-photo) could really teach me a thing or two. Also my first attempt at imageshack. But here I go anyway.



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Sweet. Shows off the size of the screen nicely. Shame everyone seems to prefer the super close up shots.
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