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post #1 of 12 Old 10-18-2011, 08:45 PM - Thread Starter
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Whats the difference?

Just ordered 5x7/6x8 component Kappa pair for my f150.

both appear to be 2-90 watts and same sensitivity 93db...

Ive always thought the kappas are superior but is it the woofer? tweeter? Crossover?
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Honestly could not tell you. The infinity's tend to be a bit bright and shouty. Of course that is subjective.

Are you going to amplify these?

using a high pass crossover to protect the woofer?

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thanks for the reply

initially im going to see what they sound like with just the head unit. The set comes with a crossover. I think that should be sufficient to protect the woofer/tweeter.

I'll amplify them if needed wont know till they come in Friday.
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The crossover is most likely a filter to protect the tweeter (high pass X thousand hertz.) It may have a low pass for the woofer section. This does not keep the lows out of the woofer. If you like bass heavy music, be careful or you will be replacing those woofs sooner rather than later.

Good luck on the install and have fun enjoying!!

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The crossover is most likely a filter to protect the tweeter (high pass X thousand hertz.) It may have a low pass for the woofer section. This does not keep the lows out of the woofer. If you like bass heavy music, be careful or you will be replacing those woofs sooner rather than later.

Good luck on the install and have fun enjoying!!

are you talking out your arse or is there something you know that i dont?
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Not sure what you mean? Was not attempting to talk out my arse.


Which part is new to you?

Passive Crossover for car audio seperates sometimes let the woofer roll off naturally rather than electrically (inductor and cap etc). They will almost always have some sort of passive component to protect the tweeter. At the very least a cap to roll the tweets off keeping the bass out of them that will destroy them.


If it was the last section regarding protecting the woofer, As I don't know your listening habits or music preference I felt it necessary to at least let you know that there is no electrical protection in passive crossovers for two way systems for the woofers. So they get fed 20 hertz to where they are either crossed over at (usually 2-4k) or left to roll off naturally. So if you play your music WFO and its bass heavy with the bass boost on the head unit maxed, be prepared for the eventuality of replacing your woofers. Have seen to many people blow their woofs that way. Most likely a door mounting so there is no enclosure compliance protecting that speaker.

If the above on both counts was not what you were questioning, let me know and I will try to explain further.

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thanks for the reply

my "arse" comment was regarding even thinking of replacing speakers that havent even been installed yet. I completely understand your point.

i dont play music too loud but do on occasion. I"ll definately do some testing to find the distortion threshold of this factory ford deck with the speakers and not exceed it.

Probably going to at least put in a 75x2 amp using speaker level outputs and maybe replace the head unit at some point.

They get here tomorrow and i'll have them in tomorrow too. Will report back.
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In my listening tests the References sounded smoother. The Kappa's seemed a bit harsh or "bright" as cubdenno describes. However some people like a more "forward" sounding tweeter. This is basically the old metal versus soft dome debate which has raged for years.

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well they arrived and now im saying screw all the complications regarding installing these. ordering non component something tonight or tomorrow...
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WHAT????

Come on man. Can't be that bad.

Tap into the door speaker wires. with 3m wire taps.
http://www.newark.com/3m/560-boxed/t...imp/dp/95C2802

Run positive and negative speaker wires to passive crossover network. Mount with sticky tape in a place that will fit under door card.

Run woofer wire through door and mount woofer

figure out where you want tweeter. door or dash corner or dash a pillar

easiest is door down low

I suggest up higher. drill or sticky tape. mount it.

I also suggest starting the tweet at -3 or what ever the lowest setting is if the crossover allows it.

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i also suggest starting the tweet at -3 or what ever the lowest setting is if the crossover allows it.

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well i guess i am going to install these. Im good on all the wiring. The main issue is mounting the crossover securely. I'll figure it out and post back.
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