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I got a phone call from ProVantage.com about my order a couple of minutes ago, they wanted to verify the order with me since Im a new customer to make sure it isnt fraud. The guy on the phone was very polite and helpful.

It sucks that the sony website says its out of stock, I hope I get it within the weeks end.
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Hello everyone, from av.watch.impress, I've noticed from the sample comparing with the CX520V that the new CX550V is more noisy ! I just hope they set something wrong. The sample is stab.mpg.
I'm going to choose the 520 by that example alone ! Moreover on the 550 the pretty woman's face is vertically more elongated.
If only were not for the missing audio out and mic in, grrrrrr

I can see the elongation issue if you're recording 16:9 and viewing it on 4:3 that would definately happen
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I got a phone call from ProVantage.com about my order a couple of minutes ago, they wanted to verify the order with me since Im a new customer to make sure it isnt fraud. The guy on the phone was very polite and helpful.

It sucks that the sony website says its out of stock, I hope I get it within the weeks end.

Did the guy confirmed you that you are going to get it within the weekend ?

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Did the guy confirmed you that you are going to get it within the weekend ?

tx

Nope, he just said that they were going to place the order with Sony and they will ship to me direct. The weekend bit was just wishful thinking on my part

Im guessing Sony either had a bunch of pre-orders to fill, or they didnt get the shipment of cams in yet and they just put up that its backordered instead of pushing the date back.
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Here's another vendor for $1051, their customer service rating on Google Checkout is a little higher than Provantage

http://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts...CODE=HDRCX550V
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[quote=dustindu4;18234040]Here's another vendor for $1051, their customer service rating on Google Checkout is a little higher than Provantage


check Futurepowerpc at resellerratings dot com
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Hi all...

FYI, B&H Photo has them in stock. Just ordered mine with 2 day shipping and the order status is READY TO SHIP.

Will post some feedback once I get it and can play.
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awesome, I hope the price starts coming down off MSRP quickly
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Hi all...

FYI, B&H Photo has them in stock. Just ordered mine with 2 day shipping and the order status is READY TO SHIP.

Will post some feedback once I get it and can play.

What is FYI ? Which website is that ?
I am trying to see where I could find the xr550 at the lowest price possible
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LOL, FYI means for your information, and provantage.com has the lowest price.
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What is FYI ? Which website is that ?
I am trying to see where I could find the xr550 at the lowest price possible
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LOL... B&H Photo is a huge camera shop in New York City. There website addy is bhphoto.com. I am getting ready to go on a 10 day cruise to Central and South America so I was willing to pay the extra $100 to guarantee I get the camera in time.

Just got the note from UPS that the camera is on its way.
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it would be worth it for that
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I didn't think the 550V would be available for next week's vacation, so I ordered the 520V. UPS dropped it off at 3pm. At 5pm B&H emailed to say the 550V was available, timing is everything. I have the option to return it. After using the 520V for just a few minutes I decided to keep. The longer focal length will be better for our ski vacation. It will also be better for the kids sports. I don't think I'll miss a viewfinder, I didn't use it on my old mini DV cam. I'm happy for you guys getting this new camera but I think the 520 fits my needs better.
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delete I figured it out.
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I didn't think the 550V would be available for next week's vacation, so I ordered the 520V. UPS dropped it off at 3pm. At 5pm B&H emailed to say the 550V was available, timing is everything. I have the option to return it. After using the 520V for just a few minutes I decided to keep. The longer focal length will be better for our ski vacation. It will also be better for the kids sports. I don't think I'll miss a viewfinder, I didn't use it on my old mini DV cam. I'm happy for you guys getting this new camera but I think the 520 fits my needs better.

Hope you love it - I'm very happy with my CX500V. There are features on the 550V I'd like at some point - the manual dial back in front, faster autofocus, and a couple other minor improvements. But I zoom in constantly and have mounted my wide angle converter only once with the CX12 or the CX500V - I just don't have a need for the extra wide angle in the 550 personally. I would miss the longer focal length constantly if I upgraded. So the 500V will remain my cam though I'm sure the 550 will get better reviews and "win on points".

That said, I don't want to sway anyone away from the 550 as most people chiming in want that wider angle on the built-in lens. Stylistically, I just zoom in a lot compared to most people, I guess.
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Thanks Tom, I've only recorded a few minutes indoors and burned one BD-RE and played it on an HDTV. So far it looks great.
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The specs for the CX-520V show 1080 60i at highest quality. In both Vegas and Final Cut Pro the sequence settings show 1080 29.97 instead of 60. I have the camera set to the highest quality and using the internal flash. Any ideas?

That's normal.

The 29.97 is frames per second, often called 30 fps as a shortcut. It's the NTSC standard for TVs (and faster than movies in the cinema, by the way - people who want a "cinematic look" are the ones asking for 24 fps and other similar modes).

The 1080 is more the vertical resolution of the output signal. In essence, a "full HD" TV shows 1920 pixels horizontally and 1080 lines vertically.

The 60 (really 60i in full in the 520) stands for "60 interlaced" which means the cam is capturing 60 half frames per second which are interlaced when output to yield 30 full frames per second in terms of what we perceive.

That's a quick and dirty explanation and I'm sure someone can tweak it as needed. But the CX520V is a 1080 60i camcorder and it's normal in editors to see that as 1080 resolution 30 frames per second (the 29.97 is rounded up for convenience for us human types). During rendering the 30 fps is tweaked to be 29.97 frames per second, I believe.
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That's normal.

The 29.97 is frames per second, often called 30 fps as a shortcut. It's the NTSC standard for TVs (and faster than movies in the cinema, by the way - people who want a "cinematic look" are the ones asking for 24 fps and other similar modes).

The 1080 is more the vertical resolution of the output signal. In essence, a "full HD" TV shows 1920 pixels horizontally and 1080 lines vertically.

The 60 (really 60i in full in the 520) stands for "60 interlaced" which means the cam is capturing 60 half frames per second which are interlaced when output to yield 30 full frames per second in terms of what we perceive.

That's a quick and dirty explanation and I'm sure someone can tweak it as needed. But the CX520V is a 1080 60i camcorder and it's normal in editors to see that as 1080 resolution 30 frames per second (the 29.97 is rounded up for convenience for us human types). During rendering the 30 fps is tweaked to be 29.97 frames per second, I believe.

Thank you Tom.
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Thanks Tom, I've only recorded a few minutes indoors and burned one BD-RE and played it on an HDTV. So far it looks great.

You're welcome. I had the CX500V earlier than most and reported some on it here and posted some videos. I have been pleased to see that most owners of it have found that info to be reasonable and have liked their cams a lot.

One item mentioned in other threads as you learn the cam - the difference between Low Lux mode and using regular exposures in low light instead. When people praise the Sony's low light capability, they're not really referring to Low Lux mode, which most cams have. They're talking about the lack of noise in videos taken with these Exmor R cams using regular exposures (you can go manual on that).

Low Lux controls the electronic equivalent of shutter speed to produce a brighter than average picture in low light. Leaving the "shutter" open longer has the side effect of increasing the noise in that clip and also losing a bit of detail and color fidelity. This is the price for using that mode - it's a bit of a brute force way of getting that brighter picture. With other cams, the regular exposure is often so grainy that using Low Lux is the norm. If the clip is going to be noisy, it might as well be bright!

With these Sonys, using regular exposure or manual control in lower light is very effective most of the time. You get a high-quality clip with lower noise than I've ever seen indoors or outdoors in low light. You can tweak the exposure a bit as desired - the main point is that doing that isn't "Low Lux", which is definitely a shutter-speed tweak.

So the advice I'm offering is to play with regular exposure in low light unless it's just too dim to use. Then switch to Low Lux mode. Actually, I guess I'm really advising you to play with both for a while as a learning experience. If you play with the two modes in the same light, you'll end up knowing when to use each mode to get the look you want. I favor low noise over brightness, generally, but I have clips where I needed the brightness more. If you're aware of both modes and the difference in the results, your low light videos can be great. On older cams I owned, I pretty much used only Low Lux mode because the regular exposure was so bad. These new chips have turned that behavior on its head.

I have some sample clips on YouTube for this but you really don't need them if you have the cam in hand .
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Thanks again Tom, I don't want to derail this thread.
Out of respect for the new CX-550 owners I'm moving over to the CX500/520 thread.
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I am a little bit confused from the youtube videos about the new 2010 models - apparently the CX550 is supposed to have a build in video light, but I can not find it in the specs on the Danish Sony site.....
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Hi,
According to SonyStyle.com the HDR-CX550 does not have a built-in video light. It has a built-in flash. I am getting the HVL-HL1 Video Light ($22.99 at B&H) which plugs into the accessory shoe and is powered by the camera.
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getting that light is probably a good idea, let us know how you like it
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Weird, as this video mentions built in video light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiHqFZfA8IE

At 4:50 they mention integrated video light.....


Where is the error - in the video or in the specs material???

I am also curious of just how much better the improve autofocus is - especially compared to the new Panny 700 series
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^+1, they are said to have a single led video light built in. Guess Ill see when it gets here.
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Weird, as this video mentions built in video light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiHqFZfA8IE

At 4:50 they mention integrated video light.....


Where is the error - in the video or in the specs material???

They are referring to SD Handycam models which do have a LED light. The video promotes the entire Handycam lineup, HD and SD.
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on my way to pick up my XR550 right now. The CX550 is not here yet, which is what I really want, but I am leaving for a trip tomorrow, so will have to pay the extra $200 for the harddrive, which is not that bad come to think of it.
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i just received my cx 550v upon coming home from work. after briefly messing around with it, i'm VERY impressed. auto focus is quick, very quick at full zoom. recording in a room with just a 75 watt bulb was nothing short of stunning. grain? i saw none from a 8 foot distance to my tv. it looked amazing. to the guy buying the video light, i doubt you'll need it unless in a VERY dimly lit room. the color seemed a little over saturated in a lit room, but i remember turning the color setting up a few notches, so thats probably the cause. panning quickly gave no pixelation or focus issues. i have the np-fv100 battery which is huge. it makes using the viewfinder a little awkward because it sticks out so far and the view finder only extends about 1/4 of an inch. thats my quick,brief summary. charging that beast of a battery now and going to order a mini to standard hdmi cable,seeing as how sony didn't include one.....lame.
ps...i like how all the inputs have either a sliding door or a flip open door. much better than a rubber plug door.
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I have an old H70 battery for my CX7, and it does NOT fit on the XR550!!!!
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thats awesome mate...i know it is a hassle but it would be great if you could put together a quick little edit for us showing some of its footage and stuff to us via vimeo or something....that would be great
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