Originally Posted by rico90
So you will go for Sony CX550V instead?
Don't know. I am rethinking this whole high-end consumer camcorder space.
At one level, the TM700 does so much right. And I am sure the same for Sony. But if you look at the "usage" of these cameras, they are basically just documentation of family/personal events devices. It seems the only videos today that are use by these cameras are for personal use. Just look at the Internet, it it hard to find anything that really justifies the quality of these cameras. Most of it is just boring content to any reasonable sane non-family member. And that is probably pushing it for more than 10 minutes at a time in reality for even a family member. That is what I certainly used my TRV900 for 12 years. If I had a young child, the TM700 or Sony would do just fine. In reality, they are overkill for the purpose. But being reasonably affordable, why not get the best consumer cam. I did in 1999. And these new HD cams are much less in 2010 dollars then I paid for my SONY TRV900 or even most of my Nikon lens.
I guess what bothers me is today the "real film makers" only want 24P. Just look at the RED camera. No 60i or 60P. And the excitement of the DSLR video market. Again 24P. One can argue a throw back to Edison's 24fps, but then look at the resurgence in B/W. 24P has become stylistic. 60i/60P soap operas.
On the other hand, the traditional professional video camera stops at 1080/60i. Not so much as 60P is not worthwhile, but they have to fit into the existing infrastructures, work flows and distribution processes of a production video. 60P today does not fit. 60i does. And they don't just throw it on a professional camera like the TM700 even if they could. Just look at Sony's NXCAM and the new Panny M43 professional video cam. Not one 60P button in sight. If you want quality progressive, you go 24P again. One just has to look at all the issues/concerns of the TM700's 60P to guess why we don't see a rush.
And then a new wrinkle, you have the new M43 Panasonic professional using a larger one chip sensor with AVCHD. Just like Sony NXCAM, but a bigger sensor. Again no 60P, but 24P. Not even three chips for good color. I even found comments on some of the professional forums wondering why it even had 60i, since they see it fitting more into RED/DSLR/Panavision Genesis space of 24P. They are really saying would someone really buy this cam for the 10PM news?
It seems the high-end consumer cam territory is threaten at both ends. They really don't have a clear mission anymore. Just high-end personal event capture machines or really low, low end film makers. People that just want kids, pet, family events and vacations are probably buying cheaper,much smaller HD cameras or get HD video in some multiple purpose device- not a standalone high-end consumer HD camcorder. I showed my TM700 to a friend and they commented how large it was- really. And these low-end HD cams are getting better every year. Others want the film look, depth of field only a lager sensor can do.
And the new film makers don't really care squat about video. They just want a cheaper alternative to film. Video just happens to do it, but only 24P. The TM700 would be only used by the guy that could not do 24P large sensor today.
But to answer your question will I buy the Sony. Probably not. I am in the market for the D400 Nikon that should have 1080 P24/P30 video along for the ride. It will probably meet my needs for family capture, in some fashion. And I have lots of lens that would make this fun to use. And the DLSR already have great low-level lighting. So I will probably just wait.
Or perhaps next year, the new Panasonic will refine their cam again. I am not sure I want to spend $300 more for the Sony V550 today and get less PQ even it has lower light capability and better for me stabilization. It would pale next to a DSLR with a fast lens.
Panasonic can fix the fan issue at some point. It looks like a poor implementation and the next gen of processor chips might run cooler too. And they might tweak their stabilization. It just seems over aggressive for the 5x improvement over the TM300. And when it does finally lock-in, it is equal or better then the Sony.
And I can always buy the TM700 again later this year, if needed. Maybe they will put a fan that does not have a loose shaft and temperature controlled.