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Just got my new tm700 last week. I noticed there is a strange sound coming from inside the camcorder if you shake the camcorder lightly when it is powered off. It sounds like a small metal ball rolling inside the camcorder and makes the sound. But if you shake the camcorder lightly when it is turned on, this sound disappeared. Is this normal? Or do you have the same issue with your camcorder? Thanks.
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So I just went to play the 1080p files on what I thought would be a competent computer for the first time, and they still lagged. The computer is a new iMac - 3.06ghz core2duo, 4gb ram, 256mb nvidia. The fact that mere playback was laggy really surprised me. Just what does 1080p require? Would a simple video card upgrade suffice?
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Just got my new tm700 last week. I noticed there is a strange sound coming from inside the camcorder if you shake the camcorder lightly when it is powered off. It sounds like a small metal ball rolling inside the camcorder and makes the sound. But if you shake the camcorder lightly when it is turned on, this sound disappeared. Is this normal? Or do you have the same issue with your camcorder? Thanks.

Yes it's normal. The assumption is that it's part of the optical image stabilization mechanism.
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Just got my new tm700 last week. I noticed there is a strange sound coming from inside the camcorder if you shake the camcorder lightly when it is powered off. It sounds like a small metal ball rolling inside the camcorder and makes the sound. But if you shake the camcorder lightly when it is turned on, this sound disappeared. Is this normal? Or do you have the same issue with your camcorder? Thanks.

This has been discussed many times before. It is inherent in every OIS equipped camcorder from every manufacturer.
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Greetings everyone.

Need some help with HS700, NTSC version.

1. Playback of 60p clips is choppy using MPC if deooder is set to DXVA mode. Codec used include MPC, Arcsoft, PDVD10, and MS. However playback of 50p clips downloaded as well as 60p clips recorede using the Sanyo HD2000 is smooth. The system is Q8400/ATI 5670 running Win7x86.

2. Software mode and CoreAVC work on both 50/60p clips.

3. HD Writer's video playback and edit don't seem to work, getting a black screen.

4. Has anyone tried using the x.y.colour feature? Is there a way to tell if video is recorded with x.y.colour?

Many thanks and best regards.
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I can tell you that x.y. color should only be used in conjunction with an x.y. display. X.Y. color falls outside of the accepted Rec709 standard for HD and therefore is not considered accurate by Rec709 standards.
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Thanks Ken!

The only one I don't know in there is the P2G Decoder. Any idea where that one comes from?

I saw that you must have CyberLink PowerDVD on your machine. It plays back the 1080/60p fine for me, but has a rather goofy interface.

This one still has me stumped. I hate it when that happens

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Sorry Pete, I have no clue what that is or where it comes from. To be honest, aside from the Canopus codecs, most of them are mysteries to me.

Which makes me wonder how much of a role, if any, the Canopus codecs play in this. But I still tend to think that the I7 processor is the essential ingredient in the buttery playback I get.
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Sorry Pete, I have no clue what that is or where it comes from. To be honest, aside from the Canopus codecs, most of them are mysteries to me.

Which makes me wonder how much of a role, if any, the Canopus codecs play in this. But I still tend to think that the I7 processor is the essential ingredient in the buttery playback I get.

That and the amount of memory you have...I would think the more memory, the smoother the playback, to a point... as with the new video cards with the 2 gig memory onboard for smoother playback...versus the 1 gig most have....but, in our case, we are not playing video games, and the CPU and memory are what determines our playback quality..that and a program that works...



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I got my HDC-TM700 this week, and am enjoying the image quality.

Is there any way in camera, or in computer to display the exposure settings (shutter, iris, gain) used when recording a clip? I can see that info in manual mode when adjusting the iris, but that's the only time. During playback I seem to only see the time & date, or nothing.

I am coming from a Sony XR500V where it is just the opposite. f/stop does not display when shooting (just an "exposure" a bar graph with no numbers), but you can display the exposure data on playback. Seems like the Panasonic should also store that info somewhere (?)
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It's technically possible to record from HDMI, and assuming the TM700 leaves HDMI hot during shooting.

The TM700 HDMI output is active while shooting live. Unfortunately, I don't know of any HDMI recorder that can take 1080p60 (at least, not anything affordable)!

Still, the $200 Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle can record 1080p30. So, maybe something will show up soon!
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Lets say i have 10 clips on the internal memory that i filmed 2010-05-12.

Yesterday (2010-05-20) i copy these clips from the internal memory to my Sandisk SDHC card and then copy them from my card to my computer. When i look at "creation date" on the files it says 2010-05-20 and the exact time when i copied the files. It would suck if creation date is'nt keept when copying files from internal memory to SDHC card.

Maybe i'm doing something wrong. Anyone else have tried this?
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I got my HDC-TM700 this week, and am enjoying the image quality.

Is there any way in camera, or in computer to display the exposure settings (shutter, iris, gain) used when recording a clip? I can see that info in manual mode when adjusting the iris, but that's the only time. During playback I seem to only see the time & date, or nothing.

I am coming from a Sony XR500V where it is just the opposite. f/stop does not display when shooting (just an "exposure" a bar graph with no numbers), but you can display the exposure data on playback. Seems like the Panasonic should also store that info somewhere (?)

I don't believe you can access that info while in an auto mode. The only time I've seen it was in manual mode. I also don't see a way to call up that info while playing back clips.
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Wow I tried the HDC-HS700 version and had nothing but absolute frustration trying to use it on my Mac.

I used toast to convert the files. I tried prores and also apple intermediate codec. The files transferred ok and I was able to import them and use them in Final Cut Pro but once I tried to create a blu-ray disk (even a short 1 minute clip)...well I basically wasted 4 hours without any success whatsoever.

Usually I would either get a message stating that I could not create a blu-ray disk because (and I don't remember the exact message in the share dialogue) something was 'too large' or if it DID accept what I was doing and went about creating the files for the blu-ray, it would eventually start telling me that I had literally hours left to go (even for a 1 and a half minute clip...and I am NOT only talking about clips originally shot at 60p, this happened no matter what quality I chose).

If on the other hand, I would just import files from my Canon HFS21, I could do the entire procedure without fuss in a few minutes.

VERY frustrating because it seems to be a real nice camera. Colors are superb on it, better white balance than either the Canon or the Sony 550V which I also had the opportunity to try out a couple of weeks ago.
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Jay, if you do a search you should be able to come up with those that are using the 700 successfully on a Mac. There have been a number of posts on this. As an aside, you'll need one of the newer Panasonic BD players to play back 60p video. I've got the Panasonic BD350 and it plays the 700 files directly from the SD card (it's got an SDHC card slot).
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I got my TM700 yesterday. I primarily will be using it to shoot RC airplanes. I also had no luck trying to play the 1080/60P videos on my PC. But I am very happy with the HG mode. It's more than what I need. I was able to edit the files with Pinnacle Studio 14.

Has anyone found a source for knockoff batteries that work?

http://vimeo.com/11940532
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Stay away from knockoff batteries, they won't work properly. You're just asking for trouble.
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I got my TM700 yesterday. I primarily will be using it to shoot RC airplanes. I also had no luck trying to play the 1080/60P videos on my PC. But I am very happy with the HG mode. It's more than what I need. I was able to edit the files with Pinnacle Studio 14.

Has anyone found a source for knockoff batteries that work?

http://vimeo.com/11940532

Hey Gary, great video and glad you are having fun with the remote control airplane and the Panny. Just too bad that you cannot take advantage of the max resolution on the Panny since you are having trouble playing back those files. Silly for Panny to come out with a proprietary format that requires lots of people to post "How-To" articles to get playback and editing to work. Thanks for sharing. Now I want one of those planes!
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Stay away from knockoff batteries, they won't work properly. You're just asking for trouble.

I use knockoff batteries on my Canon 40D, Sony Cam and Canon Elph for years now. I realize that Panny installed a chip to make it more difficult to use knock off batteries but I am not paying a 500% markup for something that works no better. In the RC world we learned years ago the Lipo batteries from China work just as well. The battery you saw in the sailplane costs about $6, in the USA you would pay about $50 bucks for the same size.

So my question is has anyone started selling the battery with a chip in it to be compatible?
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Hey Gary, great video and glad you are having fun with the remote control airplane and the Panny. Just too bad that you cannot take advantage of the max resolution on the Panny since you are having trouble playing back those files. Silly for Panny to come out with a proprietary format that requires lots of people to post "How-To" articles to get playback and editing to work. Thanks for sharing. Now I want one of those planes!

It's actually not 'proprietary', but rather a simple variant allowed within the AVC standard. Proprietary would be something that is not contained within any accepted standard.
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So my question is has anyone started selling the battery with a chip in it to be compatible?

Not that I'm aware of Gary, nor have I seen any owner report a success with a non-Panasonic battery.
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It's actually not 'proprietary', but rather a simple variant allowed within the AVC standard. Proprietary would be something that is not contained within any accepted standard.

Now you are just nit picking. Yes, 60p in the Panny is officially MPEG-4 AVC/H.264. But when this format is not easily editable, it's a killer for many enthusiasts. The main point here is that in order to take advantage of the Panny's highest recording mode (since it is so highly rated in image quality), you are limited as to how to view and edit it. Not to say future editing software won't support this format but at the moment, that is why there so many articles showing users how to manage this format of media asset.
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To clarify I could play the 1080/60P file but it was choppy because of my CPU. For my needs that format is too large anyways, sites like Vimeo have too many size restrictions for free accounts.
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Now you are just nit picking. Yes, 60p in the Panny is officially MPEG-4 AVC/H.264. But when this format is not easily editable, it's a killer for many enthusiasts. The main point here is that in order to take advantage of the Panny's highest recording mode (since it is so highly rated in image quality), you are limited as to how to view and edit it. Not to say future editing software won't support this format but at the moment, that is why there so many articles showing users how to manage this format of media asset.

It's not 'nit picking' at all. "Proprietary" implies something totally different than a variant of an accepted format. "Proprietary" carries it with the distinct possibility that standard editing programs will never support it. Such is not the case. There are already editing programs that accept 1080p with many more to come.

1080p will be a common feature on most high-end camcorders. After seeing the 1080p picture of the 700 and the reception it's getting in the video world, I'm sure other manufacturers are preparing to release their version of it. It will be impossible to for other manufacturers to ignore what 1080p brings to the picture quality table.

I'd bet that Canon will be the next since they're usually on the cutting edge.
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SANTA CLARA, Calif., January 4, 2010 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. (NASDAQ: OVTI), a leading developer of advanced digital imaging solutions, today launched a 14.6-megapixel image sensor capable of delivering high-resolution still photography and full 1080p high-definition (HD) video at 60 frames per second (fps). The new OV14810 for digital still/video cameras (DSC/DVC) and OV14825 for mobile applications are among the very first sensors to achieve the highest quality in both video and photography for mainstream consumer electronics.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1262646283.html



It looks like 1080p60 will be common in 2011.
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I got my TM700 yesterday. I primarily will be using it to shoot RC airplanes. I also had no luck trying to play the 1080/60P videos on my PC. But I am very happy with the HG mode. It's more than what I need. I was able to edit the files with Pinnacle Studio 14.

I shoot RC helicopters with mine. I have to use 60p because of all the quick maneuvers that helis can do. For the time being, I'm editing my videos down to 720/30p for YouTube, but I'm hanging on to the source files and editor projects for a time when I can get a player that will play 1080/60p.
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Hi!

I wrote about this a few days ago but now i really need help. We are going to Spain on friday on vacation.

What method do you use and what method is the correct one when transfering files from Camcorder to PC?

Option 1:

Use HDWriter to transfer the files witch result in .m2ts files that are named with date and time of the recording (20100508_094438.m2ts). There is also a few other small files. The actual creation-date and time of the file is erased when using HDWriter. Right click and properties and you will see. Ofcourse you still got the filename to remember what date and time it was recorded.

Option 2:

Copy the AVHCD folder from the cams internal memory or from memory card and then manually create folder like "Vacation 2010-02-23" and put the AVHCD folder there. The problem with this option is if you have alot of .MTS files on the camera that are from separate vacations for exemple. How could you separate this in several folder if folderstructure and small files could be importent for future video editing? Lets say you have 50 .mts files from two diefferent vacations and file 1 to 25 is from vacation 1. Then i would ofcourse copy the AVHCD folder containing just these files and do the same with file 25-50 to another folder. But how can i know witch of the other files on the other folders (small files) that i should put in the correct folder?

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Only record to the cams internal memory and then copy selected parts over to the memory card and after that use option 2 above. Then i would be certain that only vacation 1 for example is on the memory card. By using this option i assume i would keep the AVHCD folder intact.

I hate this! I really need to know how i should do this so i got future-proof backup to my computer. The manual says that you should use HDWriter to transfer your files to your computer.

What is your workflow when transfering your footage to your computer?

Thanks.
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What method do you use and what method is the correct one when transfering files from Camcorder to PC?

I just copy the .MTS files from the stream folder to my PC and then edit with Pinnacle. I never even loaded the software that came with the cam.
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I just copy the .MTS files from the stream folder to my PC and then edit with Pinnacle. I never even loaded the software that came with the cam.

Gary, I'm interested in a good editing solution for 1080p60. Is 1080p60 what you're doing with Pinnacle? Is it smooth, or is the editing, adding transitions, adjustment of the 1080p60 problematic? If it is smooth, what version of Pinnacle are you using, and can you provide the specs of your PC: CPU type, CPU speed, and video card, HDD/RAID etc. Thanks!
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