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Is that sunlight?

If this is at night with a single light source, then I am very impressed. If this is indoors with sunlight coming through the windows (even if not a lot), then the pany can absolutely handle this scenario noise free with a fantastic image.

There was no sun today so all the light was just from the overcast sky leaching inside, and the cat was far from any window.
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I stepped outside quickly to take this night video, as Fringe was on FOX23 and I just can not miss it. Here is what I got.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HdtAH3iEz4
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I stepped outside quickly to take this night video, as Fringe was on FOX23 and I just can not miss it. Here is what I got.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HdtAH3iEz4


That is much better than I can get on the TM900 even if I crank everything up I still drown in noise. Are you using manual or auto mode?
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That is much better than I can get on the TM900 even if I crank everything up I still drown in noise. Are you using manual or auto mode?

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Yeah no chance the Panny is even close to the low light capabilites of the CX560.

I did dislike the very slow autofocus on the CX560 that I tried, it was verrrrry sllllooooowwwww in Best Buy. It might have just been that camera tho.

Unfortunately that's been a Sony 'trademark' in virtually every Sony I've owned. The worst part of some of their camera's autofocus is how you can have your subject squarely lined up in the frame, with the subject composing about 50%-60% of the frame, and the camera will STILL focus on something behind. To this day the best autofocus I've ever used is on the Canons. The 700 autofocus was also very good, but I think the Canon IAF was better.

Now all Sonys may not be that bad, but yes, I did notice slow focus on the CX, so I'm not sure your tester was an anomaly.
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I stepped outside quickly to take this night video, as Fringe was on FOX23 and I just can not miss it. Here is what I got.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HdtAH3iEz4

Moviemaker, I think people should realize that most of the noise in your video is from Youtube compression and not the Sony video. I'd bet this footage was pretty clean.
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Just curious but can't you lock the focus? at a certain distance and then check your zooming, in and out to check for noise associated with motion (in low light), also remember your dealing with a (TINY LITTLE CHIP) back lit or not, its still small and there is only one of them, don't expect a hole lot from a consumer grade Cam in that regard. It seemed to me that you panned from left to right and it started off ok but then it just got crappy as it became much darker. Just to dark of an area, it is outside the scope of ability of these consumer Cam's period. Spend more money on a respectable Pro Cam that is proven, it will alleviate all your frustrations and anxiety's about the sub $2,000.00 Cam's available? Maybe haa?
On a positive note I love what I saw in the 30 minutes I spent at Best Buy yesterday with the cx560v and am actually not going to wait too purchase it. I buying it for my my tomorrow as a surprise. She will be absolutely delighted to get this one, as I promised it to her this summer when prices drop. I'm just being patient for my Canon HF g10 to arrive hopefully in 10 days or so.


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That is much better than I can get on the TM900 even if I crank everything up I still drown in noise. Are you using manual or auto mode?

Steve, as I mentioned with the CX700, the Sony really is that good in low light. But just think of this, the Canon will probably be even better...but we may never see it. (:
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Just curious but can't you lock the focus? at a certain distance and then check your zooming, in and out to check for magenta and cyan drift, along with checking the motion? thats what I would do for starters and go from there.

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One of the disappointments I found with the Sony was that you had little control over different picture parameters. I've had Sonys where you could adjust color, tint, sharpness, etc as well as the WB shift that does exist on the current crop of Sonys.

But you can certainly lock focus and perform a MWB.
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I just took a quick low light video inside the home, will post it as soon as it's uploaded to my you tube spot.
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I stepped outside quickly to take this night video, as Fringe was on FOX23 and I just can not miss it. Here is what I got.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HdtAH3iEz4

Did you have the "low light mode" activated in this video?

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If you are interested this is my low light test

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Did you have the "low light mode" activated in this video?

I think it was on, my does not do all that noise
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I think it was on, my does not do all that noise

I think that was more YouTube compression than noise from the Sony.
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I think it was on, my does not do all that noise

I think so to. Moviemaker?

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I think that was more YouTube compression than noise from the Sony.

I think so too ....
I uploaded a file look up 2048x .. has fewer pixels

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwKgaUOh7Ig

click original!
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That's a great clip djandrea and was the major reason I became interested in the CX700.
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If you are interested this is my low light test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44aamrIy2Y4



Definitely YouTube compression issues period! you can not post true examples of low light shots and expect anyone to see what your seeing on your TV. Its impossible for us too accurately judge it.

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now I'm doing the upscaling video to 2048x (original) in this way by using youtube 5mb / s to 15MB / s
max 20 mb / s
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Just a little quick low light video inside the home using a Sony HDRCX560V 03182011.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1jua-h3qqA
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Dam!! now thats what I'm talking about, nice stuff there Moviemaker!! The wifey will have hers tomorrow! Yeaaa I can see the YouTube compression going on , however I know that it looks great on your own TV set. And thats all that counts.

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Definitely YouTube compression issues period! you can not post true examples of low light shots and expect anyone to see what your seeing on your TV. Its impossible for us too accurately judge it.

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http://www.multiupload.com/NVH9C3Z95E Original wmv export file 20mbps
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ok downing it now after I waited the 43 seconds to start because I'm not a member. Speaking of that I need to renew my Rapid Share acct. I'll check it out and post back latter. this has been a long dragged out thread. Need to relax with the wife now.

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Djandrea, That looks fine to me and totally what I would expect from a Cam like this. It is quite a gem and am looking forward to tomorrows purchase of it for my wife. Thank God for High Speed Downloads from Comcast, it only took me 2 minutes to down the whole 600 mb's. Great stuff!!

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djandrea, that looks fine to me and totally what i would expect from a cam like this. It is quite a gem and am looking forward to tomorrows purchase of it for my wife. Thank god for high speed downloads from comcast, it only took me 2 minutes to down the whole 600 mb's. Great stuff!!

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Steve, as I mentioned with the CX700, the Sony really is that good in low light. But just think of this, the Canon will probably be even better...but we may never see it. (:


Looking at the CX560 video I put on Vimeo it's much better than the TM900 by a mile. The autofocus is the only thing that would stop me from buying it.
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low light native fotage :

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Looking at the CX560 video I put on Vimeo it's much better than the TM900 by a mile. The autofocus is the only thing that would stop me from buying it.

Auto focus in low light sucks for even some of the higher end Pro models 2, thats why you try to set your senes and focus accordingly in the darker areas, besides for the cost of this Sony 560v it delivers what one would completely expect from a consumer grades Cam. I like allot!

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Auto focus in low light sucks for even some of the higher end Pro models 2, thats why you try to set your senes and focus accordingly in the darker areas, besides for the cost of this Sony 560v it delivers what one would completely expect from a consumer grades Cam. I like allot!

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I deleted the brighter light video from Best Buy but it wasn't a lot faster focusing in bright light either and was still out of focus on the left not as much on the right.
Might have just been that one camera. I only had 5 mins max with it.
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