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I'm looking for recommendations on a camcorder that is similar to the Panasonic HDC-TM700. I was willing to spend $750 on it but now it's gone up to $850. Unbelievable! Anyway, cheaper is better of course but what camcorders out there have like quality to the Panasonic? I really do like the Panasonics because I am able to control them with the way my hands are. I have limited mobility due to paralysis in with the way my fingers are curled up I found it difficult to control the canons. Not sure about the sonys but I'm willing to give anything a try if there's one like the Panasonic in features and quality. I really like the fact the Panasonic tm700 has time lapsed filming and slow motion, this would be a real plus it it was on another camcorder. Also, I probably would be editing on a Mac which I heard is a nightmare for 60p format. I read somewhere you have to convert it using a program called aunsoft. I have final cut of express and adobe premiere but have no idea on how to use them yet. iMovie is much simpler and quicker to use so I would much rather use that if possible for quick edits. All and any advice would be great. Thank you in advance.
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Not only is there a camera "similar" to the TM700, there is one that is better:

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-HDC-...0410535&sr=8-1

And its $749!

You can throw away the 3D lens or sell it or use it.

The No.1 camcorder according to camcorderinfocom.
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I was reading some reviews of the Panasonic sdt750k and the reviews were not as good as the tm700. I know there's a lot more for the tm700 because it's been out longer and I do not want to be the Guinea pig for the new one. As for the 3d I can care less. I see the difference of there not being any internal memory which then I'd have to buy an sd card and it seemed like the 750 might have a better anti shake system going on. Once you consider buying and sdhc card a good one at that I think you're back up to the same price as the tm700. Thank you for your input but I'm not sold on the idea of the 750. more thoughts please.
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I'm sorta in the same situation as you but I'm looking for 60p since I'm going to be filming fast action at a dojo.

The 700 is now selling at 1099$ on amazon, which as as much as the new 900 series, it went from 750 to 1099 in just four weeks. I assumed the price would have dropped since the new model is out, not gone up to the same price. So that is out of the picture.

The 750 looks like a great deal right now and it's price hasn't increased like the tm700 has and it seems like the only option I have that meets my needs and won't make me sell a kidney.

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According to b&h it's already discontinued and not something you can order from that site anymore. *sigh
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Amazon still has it:
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-HDC-...0784182&sr=8-1

That camcorder originally sold for $1400 and went all the way down to $750 very recently but now that people are starting to notice it more, I see that Amazon increased it to $780. If you sell the 3D lens, the final price becomes far more attractive unless you want 3D. I suspect it'll either go up again or sell out so it's better to get it now than wait. This is like the SD600 situation all over again.
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Amazon still has it:
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-HDC-...0784182&sr=8-1

That camcorder originally sold for $1400 and went all the way down to $750 very recently but now that people are starting to notice it more, I see that Amazon increased it to $780. If you sell the 3D lens, the final price becomes far more attractive unless you want 3D. I suspect it'll either go up again or sell out so it's better to get it now than wait. This is like the SD600 situation all over again.

Well, just to brag on our cameras a little bit, it is not quite as good as the sd600 situation. There was absolutely nothing even close to that quality for 299, but at 780 there are other enticing options as well.
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60p uh?
sony CX560/700?
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60p uh?
sony CX560/700?

No full manual mode, uh?
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60p uh?
sony CX560/700?

I have no idea what this was supposed to mean.
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If you sell that lens brand new, you should be able to get at least $150 to $250. This would put the SDT750 at a very attractive price point, meaning a final price of $530 to $630. Heck the final price could be even be $430 if you get very lucky and sell the lens for $350.

Even for $630, it'll be hard to find camcorders close to the SDT750 especially considering the fact that you have a view finder, traditional focusing ring, being able to easily control the shutter and exposure independently, a mic input and a 10080 60p mode.

Still part of what I meant comparing it to the SD600 is that if you don't get the SDT750 now, it'll be hard to get it brand new at that price very soon.
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If you sell that lens brand new, you should be able to get at least $150 to $250. This would put the SDT750 at a very attractive price point, meaning a final price of $530 to $630. Heck the final price could be even be $430 if you get very lucky and sell the lens for $350.

I would not even accept it as a present. Well, maybe a present.
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Do you think that you will actually be able to find someone to buy the 3d lens? And just to clarify I guess what some people are saying is to buy the sd750 over the tm700. I don't think anyone touched on what the main differences are besides the obvious. Also, I did a quick search for sd cards and its probably about $150 for a decent one that transfers at a higher speed. I'm still a little worried that the sd card won't transfer the data at 28 mb per second for the videos highest setting because even though the card says 30 mb per second real life transfer rates are lower than that aren't they? Am I wrong? So it's $780 plus 150 equals $930 minus whatever you can sell the lens for. not to much difference and the tm700 ($900 At one site) has been tried and reviewed alot more than the sd750.
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I did a quick search for sd cards and its probably about $150 for a decent one that transfers at a higher speed.

$30 for a 16 GB card.
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I'm still a little worried that the sd card won't transfer the data at 28 mb per second for the videos highest setting because even though the card says 30 mb per second real life transfer rates are lower than that aren't they? Am I wrong?

30 millibits per second? Where did you find a card like this? Class 6 cards are 48 Mb/s. Class 10 cards are 80 Mb/s. You can even use a Class 4 card if you wanted.
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I use a class 4 in 1080/60p all the time with no problem. Cost me approx. 15 bucks for Kingston 16GB. Read some of the posts on here, there are many factors that make the RECORDING capabilities of a class 4 sufficient, though there are other benefits to a higher class card.

Also, be more specific, when you said 150 for a decent class 10, you dont actually mean a decent card, you mean a Sandisk 32GB class 10. Granted, a class 10 Panasonic 32 GB cost something like 599 dollars...but, that is just a joke. There is not nearly that much difference between brands.

If you want top name brand top speed, yes. It will cost big bucks. But, then again, the TM700 memory is not class 10 anyway, so...anyway, thats my input.
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Still part of what I meant comparing it to the SD600 is that if you don't get the SDT750 now, it'll be hard to get it brand new at that price very soon.
This is what I did. I managed to nab a HDC-SDT750 for 749 plus 10 in shipping which brought it up to 759. I think I got a good deal on something that might go up 400 or 500 dollars in a few weeks.
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I'm probably going to purchase it tomorrow unless other questions come up. Any recommendations as to where to buy? Did anyone get warranties with theirs? Like extended warranties or accidental. I'm specifically looking at square trade electronic warranties. All I need is to drop this thing and lose $800. and what are your favorite 16gb or 32gb sdhc cards?
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Amazon is definitely a good place to get the SDT750 if that's what you meant.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-HDC-...1017745&sr=8-1
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