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Please have a look and watch in HD:
HE low light:
http://vimeo.com/35429958
60P low light:
http://vimeo.com/35755334
60P good light:
http://vimeo.com/35797349
grainy, foggy, frame drops, etc
is that TM750 healthy?
please help
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Please have a look and watch in full screen:
http://vimeo.com/35429958

grainy, foggy, frame drops, etc
is that TM750 healthy?
please help
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What quality setting/bit rate are you using?
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What quality setting/bit rate are you using?

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He mean which video mode. For example 24p, 60i or 60p.
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He mean which video mode. For example 24p, 60i or 60p.

Right ... and if 60i, what was the bit rate. In the video, it seems very low.
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He mean which video mode. For example 24p, 60i or 60p.

not 60p, it's HE so I guess 60i? how do we know whether it's 24p or 60i anyway? sorry i'm not so good about these stuffs :\\

@W Jones: how do we see the bitrate? is there some gauge that shows it?
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You can tell the bit rate is low by looking at the file size of the video without needing to download it. HE is the absolute worse 60i video setting that should never, ever be used except if you really need the extra space. You should have it on HA. Better yet, hit the 1080/60p button for even better quality.
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not 60p, it's HE so I guess 60i? how do we know whether it's 24p or 60i anyway? sorry i'm not so good about these stuffs :\\

@W Jones: how do we see the bitrate? is there some gauge that shows it?

As far as 60i goes, HE is 5 Mbps while if you go to HA it will be 17 Mbps. In 60p it will be 28 Mbps.

I bet you will find the quality just fine with HA or 60p.
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My TM900 looked exactly like that in low light. If the light is too low it's going to get noisy and you will think you are looking through a screen door.
It'll look the same even on manual settings. You need more light.
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.....You need more light.

That's what I was going to suggest.

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My TM900 looked exactly like that in low light. If the light is too low it's going to get noisy and you will think you are looking through a screen door.
It'll look the same even on manual settings. You need more light.

X2 .... use 60p and more light and post up another clip.
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More sample videos have been added
the one with good light doesn't have watch in HD anymore since my account isn't PRO, I can't afford any pro account right now :\\

@Steve Cebu: but the good light performance also looks noisy and jerky sometimes, the color isn't so good either :\\

also my non 60P videos are rated 29fps and 59fps for the 60P ones by the OS, normal?

thanks and I'm sorry if I sound whiny lol
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More sample videos have been added
the one with good light doesn't have watch in HD anymore since my account isn't PRO, I can't afford any pro account right now :\\

@Steve Cebu: but the good light performance also looks noisy and jerky sometimes, the color isn't so good either :\\

also my non 60P videos are rated 29fps and 59fps for the 60P ones by the OS, normal?

thanks and I'm sorry if I sound whiny lol


I have much better videos that I haven't had time to edit and post. Believe me that short clip was an example of what NOT to do.
I have posted clips in very dim light as in you could not read as the light is too low. Yet the pic is acceptable.
You need to consider just how low light that really is for a camcorder.

In the end you will buy a Canon as no other brand is as good in low light.
They make other models that are cheaper.

Panasonic is great in bright light but not so good in low light.
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I have much better videos that I haven't had time to edit and post. Believe me that short clip was an example of what NOT to do.
I have posted clips in very dim light as in you could not read as the light is too low. Yet the pic is acceptable.
You need to consider just how low light that really is for a camcorder.

In the end you will buy a Canon as no other brand is as good in low light.
They make other models that are cheaper.

Panasonic is great in bright light but not so good in low light.

Well, it sounds like I have to bite the bullet and live with it.. oh well all right then :|

wait, so mine is normal right everybody? I need just one word, normal or abnormal that's it, reasons would be great though. Thankssss

@steve cebu: Can you please send some dried mangos here lol JK, thanks mate
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Well, it sounds like I have to bite the bullet and live with it.. oh well all right then :|

wait, so mine is normal right everybody? I need just one word, normal or abnormal that's it, reasons would be great though. Thankssss

@steve cebu: Can you please send some dried mangos here lol JK, thanks mate


Your camcorder is likely normal. The Canons are just superior with great low ambient light.
They sacrifice still quality to do this and most companies won't sacrifice their still pic quality for better low light video quality, sadly.

Sorry my wife and I prefer fresh yellow mangos. They don't sell them in our part of the US very often tho.
Dried is ok too.
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Shoot in 1080/60p. Shoot in manual mode with the shutter speed set to 1/60 and then adjust the iris to brighten the scene as much as you want. I think you'll see much better (brighter) results that way.
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