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Full Frame 18mp still with 4K 422 video, 10 BIT 444 RAW output through 3G-SDI.

The game keeps on changing!

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/12/c...0-eos-1d-c-4k/

Looks like the C500 can be used in a studio/multicam situation. Timecode, genlock, sync out, and remote (CCU?).

Prices (based on what I have read) 1D-C: $15,000, C500: $30,000 - I hope that is not true!
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Full Frame 18mp still with 4K 422 video, 10 BIT 444 RAW output through 3G-SDI.

The game keeps on changing!

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/12/c...0-eos-1d-c-4k/

Looks like the C500 can be used in a studio/multicam situation. Timecode, genlock, sync out, and remote (CCU?).

Prices (based on what I have read) 1D-C: $15,000, C500: $30,000 - I hope that is not true!


Sadly, it's almost certainly true. For about that price I could have Red Scarlet package which has HDR-x mode. Though the Canon will have better low light most likely. I'd probably get a Sony FS700 instead for under $10k. It's not 4k until the firmware update, but it shoots true 1080p at framerates upto 240fps which will give slow-mo like no other camera near its price range.
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Yeah the Sony is much better value for money. I think it won't be long until 4K and QFHD are both about to become mainstream, so waiting will pay off. But it doesn't seem that many years ago, the fixed-lens 1/3'' chip Sony DSR-PD150 and its HDV successor, the Sony HVR-Z1 were about the price of this FS700 4K Super35 with interchangeable lenses.
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Yeah the Sony is much better value for money. I think it won't be long until 4K and QFHD are both about to become mainstream, so waiting will pay off. But it doesn't seem that many years ago, the fixed-lens 1/3'' chip Sony DSR-PD150 and its HDV successor, the Sony HVR-Z1 were about the price of this FS700 4K Super35 with interchangeable lenses.

4k has disappeared off of my radar for awhile, sadly. I'd love to shoot 4k because it offers so much more freedom in post. Such as shooting wide and being able to zoom in and add perfect dolly like camera movements if needed and still have great resolution left over. It's especially great if you are shooting hand held and plan to use Adobe's awesome warp stabilizer filter in post. Great for green screening too. It'll probably be 2-3 more years I'm guessing before a really good affordable 4K Super 35mm or full frame camera of note is out and under $5,000. Hope I'm wrong though.
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4k has disappeared off of my radar for awhile, sadly. I'd love to shoot 4k because it offers so much more freedom in post. Such as shooting wide and being able to zoom in and add perfect dolly like camera movements if needed and still have great resolution left over. It's especially great if you are shooting hand held and plan to use Adobe's awesome warp stabilizer filter in post. Great for green screening too. It'll probably be 2-3 more years I'm guessing before a really good affordable 4K Super 35mm or full frame camera of note is out and under $5,000. Hope I'm wrong though.

I think we will see a high-end consumer camcorder, 4K TVs, and 4K home movies replacing 1080p Blu-rays within 2 years. Why? Because the industry needs something to help it make more money. 1080p TVs and camcorders are selling for next to nothing now.
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At a local electronics retailer last week, I noticed they were selling 60" and 70" HDTV's for as little as $1200. I stood about 8ft from a 70" set (my home viewing distance) and noticed its HD video looked soft. 4K will actually be useful in the home when people upgrade to the larger sets. Watching a 70" set from 8ft will provide me a visual experience very similar to what I'm seeing at the theater.

Sony has already committed to bringing out a 4K home version of their new Spiderman movie. They are also putting 4K on the next Playstation.
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I think we will see a high-end consumer camcorder, 4K TVs, and 4K home movies replacing 1080p Blu-rays within 2 years. Why? Because the industry needs something to help it make more money. 1080p TVs and camcorders are selling for next to nothing now.

Look at my new thread. Black Magic is releasing a truly revolutionary camera in July for an unheard of price.
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