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Hello all,
Im a first time camcorder buyer. But looking for something not very basic.
Please suggest a full HD camcorder for me with a good feature set. It should ALSO be able to take good still pictures and should have a good megapixel for still pictures. I kind of want it to do both things well.

I am ready to spend up to approximately 600 USD on it. Give or take few more!

Please suggest!
I searched the net and I liked SONY PJ260.
What do you guys think?

Also please give your recommendations.
Thanks for your help!
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The best balance out there seems to be the Panasonic GH2, but be prepared to spend $1100 on it (including 14-140 lens),
http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/syste...gh2/index.html

2nd lens to get 100-300
http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/syste...o_100_300.html

Unlike DSLRs, these seem to be made for video (better video processing, auto focusing, built-in stereo mic)

Unlike traditional video cameras, the sensor size is significantly larger and the lenses are better. Better images for both video and stills than regular video cams.
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I just bought the Canon HF M50 and you can see results of video and picts i took at this link here :

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1409756
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Panasonic FZ150:
.... looking for something not very basic.
It does does full HD 1080p60, has good stabilization, great zoom and full manual when you want it. The list of "advanced" features is long. It gives you the choice of being "basic" when you need it and "advanced" when you want that. It even does "RAW".

.... with a good feature set.
The manual is over 200 pages full of "features". And, it has a great "intelligent auto" mode for when you need to respond quickly to a photo/video opportunity.

.....ALSO be able to take good still pictures
It's a new for 2012 camera and the reviews are that it does and my wife is pleased with her shots.

......want it to do both things well.
That's called a "hybrid" and is still a bit of a "nitch" market. The FZ150 is dead center in that nitch.

......ready to spend up to approximately 600 USD on it.
About $500.

Good luck!
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Thanks for the help guys!

The Panasonic GH2 and the Canon HF S30 are out of my budget.

The Panasonic FZ 150 - how long can it take videos for at a stretch?

The Canon HF M50 is not bad, just reading up on it. However, it does not have a projector like the Sony PJ260 but then the Sony one does not have wifi which I think is also a great feature to have!

Please suggest some more options - is there any camcorder that has wifi and a projector? 3D would also be great to have! and is within my budget of around 600 USD?

Also, what do you guys think of the Sony PJ 260? Please give some more options!
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...The Panasonic FZ 150 - how long can it take videos for at a stretch?...

Unlimited clip length (unless you are in the EU, where it is limited to 30 minutes).

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Please suggest some more options - is there any camcorder that has wifi and a projector? 3D would also be great to have! and is within my budget of around 600 USD?

Sadly, among the major manufacturers, only Canon (e.g., HF M50), JVC (e.g., GZ-EX250) and Samsung (e.g., HMX-QF20) have adopted camcorder wifi, while Sony has yet to adopt it outside of its MHS-TS55 Bloggie Live pocket camcorder.

I don't think you're going to find a camcorder with both wifi and a projector.

Good luck with your decision,

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.....Also, what do you guys think of the Sony PJ 260?...

The Sony cameras with the "Balanced Optical Steady Shot", where the lens itself moves have not been available very long.

As stated in a preview at CNET, "Unlike most optical image stabilization systems, which move a lens element or two in response to camera movement, BOSS moves the entire lens housing. I have no idea if it will make a significant improvement over the existing (and pretty good) SteadyShot system--Sony claims up to 13x improvement--but I'd think it would solve the problem of shooting on boats, for example, and it's certainly amusing to watch that lens wobble around like Jello in the housing."

This forum tends to attract members who identify a few particular cameras with some unique high quality features, buy them and then discuss getting the most out of them. The threads for those cameras will have hundreds of posts and thousands of views.

Only one person that I know of has posted about owning a Sony BOSS camera and provided some YouTube clips of Venice Italy. I thought they were impressive. I was hoping others would buy similar Sony cameras and provide more opinions, but that has not happened.

So, unfortunately, you aren't likely to get an opinion of the PJ260 here.

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The best balance out there seems to be the Panasonic GH2, but be prepared to spend $1100 on it (including 14-140 lens),
http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/syste...gh2/index.html

2nd lens to get 100-300
http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/syste...o_100_300.html

Unlike DSLRs, these seem to be made for video (better video processing, auto focusing, built-in stereo mic)

Unlike traditional video cameras, the sensor size is significantly larger and the lenses are better. Better images for both video and stills than regular video cams.

You can get the Gh2 with 14-42 for $849. That is a 26-78mm at a 1.86 crop ratio in video mode. Pretty decent range. I regularly see sales with the lens for about $650-$750. Just check BHphoto regularly. Great camera.
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3D would also be great to have! and is within my budget of around 600 USD?

I got a Panny 3d1 last week, a small point and shoot that does 3d. Cost was $430 delivered.
The 3d is pretty good, took some 3d video and 3d stills today. The chips play when inserted into my panny 220 player.
Drawbacks of the cam:
1) No mic input
2) can't zoom while actually shooting 3d video
3). 4x optical zoom, more would be nice
4) no control of video settings in 3d mode
Next month, when we travel, I'll still be packing my Canon HV40 hdv cam, will use along with the 3d1, will buy a dedicated 3d cam maybe next year, don't like the current offerings.
The panny 3d1 is an excellent camera/video cam for what it is. Well built, great pics, just understand what it can and can't do.
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