Canon EOS 5D Mark III VS Sony NEX VG900 in 220Mbps ProRes HQ format with Atomos Ninja 2 - AVS Forum
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Full frame Canon 5D Mark III DSLR vs full frame Sony NEX-VG900 camcorder in 220Mbps ProRes HQ format with Atomos Ninja 2 .

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This is a full frame comparison video between the Canon 5D mark III and Sony NEX VG-900. The 5D Mark III captures 91Mbps in H.264 MP4/MOV format, and VG-900 captures 28Mbps in AVCHD format. To make it fair in this video, both cameras shot it with Atomos Ninja 2 with 220Mbps ProRes HQ format. Hope you guys enjoy the video ^.^

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Both are nice, yet I will take the Sony for the extra detail.
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Both are nice, yet I will take the Sony for the extra detail.

I'll take the Mark III for the RAW 14-Bit and the extra detail. biggrin.gif
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My VG900 workflow: Stick my SDXC card into my Core i7 MacBook Air and watch the 1080p60 videos or watch on my PC or PS3 in slow motion on my HDTV. What is the 5D MKIII Raw workflow ?
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I'll take the Mark III for the RAW 14-Bit and the extra detail. biggrin.gif

This. What does this test prove? That a large sensor camera can shoot shallow DOF dark scenes with very little detail over the entire frame?
Where the VG900 (and a99) falls apart is t he wide/detailed shot. Also, it's widely known that the non-raw 5d3 needs sharpening in post, and the VG900 has terrible MOIRE issues.

I could take a GH2 and throw it in this test and you wouldn't tell the difference.
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My VG900 workflow: Stick my SDXC card into my Core i7 MacBook Air and watch the 1080p60 videos or watch on my PC or PS3 in slow motion on my HDTV. What is the 5D MKIII Raw workflow ?

Extract the raw video with raw2dng.exe, import the first dng into Adobe after effects; drop on timeline and export.

Is this about ease of use or the best video possible? What do you do about not having any color/contrast/saturation adjustment and the moire/aliasing/low resolution issues on the VG900?wink.gif
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Extract the raw video with raw2dng.exe, import the first dng into Adobe after effects; drop on timeline and export.

Is this about ease of use or the best video possible? What do you do about not having any color/contrast/saturation adjustment and the moire/aliasing/low resolution issues on the VG900?wink.gif
The VG900 is a companion to my Panasonic TM700 3MOS 1080p60 camcorder that has less moire/aliasing than the 5D MKIII Raw output and higher resolution . Both the VG900 and TM700 have zero hoops to jump through before watching 1080p60 videos. 5GB a minute for RAW ? Is that true ?
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5GB a minute for RAW ? Is that true ?
But imagine how good your cat will look ;-)
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The VG900 is a companion to my Panasonic TM700 3MOS 1080p60 camcorder that has less moire/aliasing than the 5D MKIII Raw output and higher resolution . Both the VG900 and TM700 have zero hoops to jump through before watching 1080p60 videos. 5GB a minute for RAW ? Is that true ?

It should have higher resolution; it's a camcorder designed for EVERYTHING to be in focus. If you like that look, and I do for certain occasions, that's fine. I prefer having a 61 pt AF 6FPS picture taking machine that doubles as a raw video cinema camera. Excellent low light, subject isolation, and you can still stop down to F/16 and have tremendously deep dof. There is no better "do it all" video/stills product that exists right now.
It's 5GB per minute before you export it, then it's just like normal 1080p video. 1000x 64GB cards are $114 on amazon and that'll get you over 12 minutes of glorious 14 bit raw video. smile.gif
Oh, and the 5d3 does not have a moire problem - you must be stuck in 2008 and thinking of the 5d mark II.

People who think "DSLR Is dead for video" are nuts. It's just getting started...wink.gif
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I also use the VG900 as a great still camera with 30-1/8000 sec shutter speed and the new Sony HVLF60M Flash with LED video lights works great in still and video mode with it. Since Pentax does not have a full frame DSLR the VG900 is perfect for both FF and APS-C still and 1080p60 video since it has both FF and APS-C modes with my PK mount lenses.
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