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If the price is low it might be interesting.
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According to the site, there will be two versions of these unusual smartphone photo accessories (for lack of a better term): the DSC-QX10 and the DSC-QX100. Both are said to have a built-in sensor, Bionz processor, WiFi, NFC and an SD card slot and can be magnetically attached to both iOS and Android devices. Communication between the "lens-camera" (a SonyAlpha Rumors term) and the smartphone is via WiFi. Any functions would be controlled via the smartphone.

SonyAlpha Rumors speculates, rather emphatically, that one model will feature the same sensor and lens as the RX100MII, a camera that is built around a 1-inch Exmor CMOS sensor and is equipped with a 3.6x Zeiss lens.
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/2650070628/new-images-and-info-on-potential-sony-interchangeable-sensor-lens-for-smartphone
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1"-type Exmor-R BSI-CMOS sensor (13.2 x 8.8mm, 3:2 aspect ratio)
20.2 million effective pixels
28-100mm (equiv), f/1.8-4.9 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* lens
Steady-Shot image stabilization
ISO 160-12,800 (Down to ISO 100 and to 25,600 expanded)
NFC-mediated Wi-Fi allowing file transfer and control from smartphones
Rear control dial and customizable front control ring
10fps continuous shooting in 'Speed Priority' mode
Tiltable 3" 1.2M-dot 'WhiteMagic' LCD screen
13 Picture Effects (27 with variations)
Memory Recall feature can store up to three groups of custom settings
1080p60 video, (AVCHD) with MP4 option (50p in PAL regions)
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This is looking interesting with the new info.
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Here is the first leak of a part of the QX10 and QX100 manual:

1) Power Button
2) Microphone
3) Display Panel
: Indicates that the card is not inserted
: Indicates the remaining battery charge
4) Hook for belt
5) Tripod
6) Ring Control (DSC-QX100)
7) The power / charge / movie
Green: Power on
Orange: running charging
Red: running video
8) Zoom lever
9) shutter button
10) Multifunctional jack
11) RESET button

Dimensions (standard CIPA):
DSC-QX100: 62,5 mm × 62,5 mm × 55,5 mm (W / H / D)
DSC-QX10: 62,4 mm × 61,8 mm × 33,3 mm (W / H / D)
Weight (standard CIPA) (including battery pack NP-BN, “Memory Stick Micro”):
DSC-QX100: approx. 179 g
DSC-QX10: approx. 105 g
Power Supply: Rechargeable Battery Pack NP-BN, 3,6 In the
Power consumption (during shooting): 1.1 W

Reminder:
The QX100 has the same RX100MII sensor and Zeiss lens ($600 here on Amazon).
The QX10 has the same 1/2,3 inch 18 megapixel CMOS sensor and f/3,3-5.9 lens as the Sony WX150 ($400 on Amazon).

Announcement:
As I wrote yesterday the new QX lens-cameras will be announced on September 4th! We will follow the event live so be sure to be online on SonyAlphaRumors that day!
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-qx10-and-qx100-manual-leaks/



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The new 1" BSI RX100 II sensor looks good in low light with the F1.8 Zeiss zoom.
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It was determined on this forum (with references to slashcam.de) that the original RX100 lens has a lack of sharpness of detail with medium-heavy moire and aliasing artifacts. Maybe Leica fixed it so it could be a better quality snap on smartphone lens.
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It was determined on this forum (with references to slashcam.de) that the original RX100 lens has a lack of sharpness of detail with medium-heavy moire and aliasing artifacts. Maybe Leica fixed it so it could be a better quality snap on smartphone lens.
Leica ? The RX100 II uses the 28-100mm (equiv), f/1.8-4.9 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* lens.
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Leica ? The RX100 II uses the 28-100mm (equiv), f/1.8-4.9 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* lens.
I forgot. Confusion reins (rains?) sometimes in the Pacific Northwest. I peeled the Zeiss label off of my RX100 because it was bright blue. Seemed stealthier without the sticker. And, it was a cheap plastic sticker! Now, I can't remember the brand of the lens!

From what I've read, the II uses the same lens but Sony tweaked the processor for a little more low light. Some have said that there may be a sharpness trade off.

Regardless of various opinions, I like my RX100 a lot. It is my primary camera because I don't like packing gear around. The lens, regardless of who made it for Sony, seems to work well for me.

After using the RX100 for awhile I started a thread where I planned to post examples of what it could and couldn't do. It seemed worthwhile at the time because of the popularity of the camera. The camera was introduced as the most expensive pocket sized camera ever. Despite that, it continues to sell well in a declining camera market. Now there is an updated "Mark II" version. The comment that "lack of sharpness of detail with medium-heavy moire and aliasing artifacts" killed my old thread so fast I quickly quit adding to it.

I'm looking forward to reading more about these two Sony lenses. Sony may be on to something by learning to adapt to the smartphone world.

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Shipping on September 27 and available for pre-order.
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Get the shots you want w/ manual control via smartphone1

Intuitively control shutter speed, zoom, aperture, exposure, white balance and more with the free PlayMemories™ Mobile app.

Impeccable low light performance thanks to large 1” sensor

The QX100 sports a back-illuminated 20MP large 1” Exmor R® CMOS sensor to produce professional images that far surpass those captured on any smartphone. The sensor is exceptionally sensitive, producing images with less grain even in low light situations.


Bright F1.8 Carl Zeiss® lens with 3.6x optical zoom

Zoom in up to 3.6x on a renowned Carl Zeiss® Vario-Sonnar T* zoom lens with large F1.8 aperture lets you accurately capture the subtle atmosphere of every scene and achieve beautiful background and foreground defocusing.

High-quality 30p HD video with low grain even in low light

Record high quality 1920x1080/30p HD video even in low lighting situations. The MP4 format is ideal for enjoying and sharing your HD movies on your Smartphone, PC, Mac® computer or
the internet.
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I'd like to see how this compares to the Nokia Lumia 1020. I sense some 'smartphone' camera shootouts in the coming weeks! smile.gif
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Sony Cyber-shot DSC-QX100 First-impressions Review :
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The QX100 is the high-end model, and it's quite a step up: at its core are the best bits of the Sony Cyber-shot RX100 II, based around the same 20MP 1-inch sensor and fast (at the wide end) Zeiss-branded zoom lens. The RX100 II's predecessor won a DPReview silver award when we reviewed it, and its excellent image quality was a major factor. In the RX100 II, Sony added a backside illuminated sensor to improve already good low-light performance, and our initial impressions of the updated model have been positive. Sadly, although not surprisingly, the QX100 is a JPEG-only device. And not only is RAW mode unavailable, manual exposure control is limited too, to aperture priority and exposure compensation. There's no shutter priority mode here, nor fully manual (even though we can't see why there couldn't have been).

The RX100 II currently sells for $750; the QX100 has been introduced at $499.95. That's a sizable discount if you can live with the trimmed-down feature set.

Key specifications:

20.2 effective megapixel 1.0" Exmor R BSI CMOS sensor
28-100mm equivalent 3.6x optical zoom F1.8-4.9 lens
Limited manual control - aperture priority, auto and exposure compensation
Optical SteadyShot image stabilization
MicroSD card slot
NFC and Wi-Fi connectivity
Camera manufacturers are doing their best to make nice with mobile devices by adding Wi-Fi and NFC, but nobody has solved the dilemma yet. Sony's bold attempt with the QX100 isn't just to work with your smartphone, it's designed to become part of your smartphone. The QX100 aims to produce better photos and facilitate easier sharing, all from one device.
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Looks like Sony is going sell millions of them since the QX100 is #1 on Amazon and the QX10 is #2.

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Digital-Cameras/zgbs/electronics/281052/ref=zg_bs_nav_e_2_502394
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