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Old 11-09-2013, 02:11 AM - Thread Starter
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Generaly i have been fairly happy with the video i get from my EOS M ,but viideo like https://vimeo.com/78976005 is what i am not happy with.There is noise that i hate and never get with my Camcorder,playing the files direct to tv via HDMI they are identical,there is AF hunting but manual focus in bright light with the lcd is a struggle and i dont think on a tripod the focus should hunt,the noise is worse than i used to get with a 550D and even possibly a GH2.
As i generaly like a lot about the EOS M i dont want to give up on it so quickly but its going to be hard to unless i get less noise ,M & A generaly.
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Old 11-11-2013, 07:40 AM - Thread Starter
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Rather than invade the RX100 II to replace 4 year old sony CX100 camcorder thank you thedest for your post

Consumer camcorders can also have artifacts - not as much as a 7D, but they have it.

The GH3 and the 5DMK3 have a similar performance to some camcorders in that aspect - so they also have artifacts, but less often.

If you like the colors of the EOS M, you should keep it. For the price you want to pay, a little bit of M&A shouldnt be your main concern. You will have to learn how to deal with it. And its not that hard. Every camera have some limitations. You could buy a GH3 - that way you will have similar color reproduction and less artifacts than the EOS M, but I dont think its necessary.

The RX10 promises to reduce artifacts even more, but (in my opinion) it will be just like the GH3 and the 5DMK3 in that aspect, or worse. So, if you want to work with consumer stuff and you like most of what you get in the EOS M, you should just learn how to live with it.



Here are 2 new EOS M films of mine

https://vimeo.com/79092099
https://vimeo.com/79097257
The first is rather spoilt by focus hunt of some sort that i could not see in the lcd.
If i stay with the EOS M, not forgetting i have my HF-G30 for wildlife etc i will need to get the http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canon-Mount-Adapter-EF-EOS-M/dp/B008O0IE2Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1384180386&sr=8-3&keywords=EOS+M+LENS+ADAPTOR
which is expensive in itself.What lens would you advise,the The EF-S 18-135mm lens costs more than the EOS M
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"What lens would you advise" Canon EF S 50-250mm IS STM lens is relatively cheap, new and great (lightweight, quiet and sharp and fast focus).
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Mark is the best one to give tips about AF lenses for the EOS M.

I hate AF. I use MF for videos and pictures most of the time. If you want lenses with great optics, I recommend the Rokinon/Samyang lenses. They are cheap, built like tanks and have optics that can beat very expensive lenses. Manual focusing with those AF lenses is horrible because the focus ring feels cheap and inaccurate. Once you get the chance to play with a real MF lens with a mechanical ring, its hard to get back.

And it looks like you are a landscape guy, so you dont need AF. Its not hard to manual focus using small apertures, even if you dont have focus peaking.
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Mark is the best one to give tips about AF lenses for the EOS M.

I hate AF. I use MF for videos and pictures most of the time. If you want lenses with great optics, I recommend the Rokinon/Samyang lenses. They are cheap, built like tanks and have optics that can beat very expensive lenses. Manual focusing with those AF lenses is horrible because the focus ring feels cheap and inaccurate. Once you get the chance to play with a real MF lens with a mechanical ring, its hard to get back.

And it looks like you are a landscape guy, so you dont need AF. Its not hard to manual focus using small apertures, even if you dont have focus peaking.

I agree that the new AF lenses are not great for manual focusing; there is a ring and a manual switch on the lens, but the focusing mechanism is electronic not mechanical and is harder to use. Mostly I focus first using AF and then lock focus to shoot - this avoids hunting in the shot (unless I am deliberately focus pulling). So for me, AF is just a way to quickly get accurate focusing first without me working hard. And AF focus tracking does pretty well. For landscapes I agree that manual or locked focus after AF is fine.
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Old 11-12-2013, 01:27 AM - Thread Starter
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Thank you guys for your great help.
Mark is this lens you mentioned http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canon-EF-S-55-250mm-4-5-6-Lens/dp/B00EP71ETU/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384244098&sr=1-3&keywords=ef+lens+canon

This one is a lot cheaper http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canon-EF-S-55-250mm-4-5-6-Lens/dp/B0056E49MK/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384244098&sr=1-2&keywords=ef+lens+canon but not STM would it be ok for the EOS M i have read such a lot about STM being better for video but not clear in what way over USM.

This sort of range would be great http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tamron-Aspherical-18-200mm-3-5-6-3-Lens-Suitable/dp/B0007XD4LC/ref=sr_1_19?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384245631&sr=1-19&keyw but probobly not ideal for EOS M
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Thank you guys for your great help.
Mark is this lens you mentioned http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canon-EF-S-55-250mm-4-5-6-Lens/dp/B00EP71ETU/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384244098&sr=1-3&keywords=ef+lens+canon

This one is a lot cheaper http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canon-EF-S-55-250mm-4-5-6-Lens/dp/B0056E49MK/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384244098&sr=1-2&keywords=ef+lens+canon but not STM would it be ok for the EOS M i have read such a lot about STM being better for video but not clear in what way over USM.

This sort of range would be great http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tamron-Aspherical-18-200mm-3-5-6-3-Lens-Suitable/dp/B0007XD4LC/ref=sr_1_19?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1384245631&sr=1-19&keyw but probobly not ideal for EOS M

Yes. The newer 55-250mm model (it just came out), besides being quieter and faster focusing, also has better optics than the older version (there have been advances in lens design). The bigger-range zooms are much heavier - the 55-250mm is amazing light and small.
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Old 11-27-2013, 04:23 PM - Thread Starter
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https://vimeo.com/80509957

That was filmed with my EOS M and the 55-250 STM also all the footage had my Canon 1.5x Camcorder extender lens screwed in,the set set up giving me 600mm works fine and there does not seem to be a loss in stills resolution either.
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https://vimeo.com/87358224
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYF4dBvsz5Y
The Vimeo write up says it pretty much.A lot of the clips not 100%,,focusing without a viewfinder hard for me,but i am fairly happy with the overall look of the film.One thing i dislike on the camera is on manual movie mode after setting the aperture my camera always reverts to the shutter spead section so it has to be changed back to apertiure for further aperture adjustment when needed.
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Thanks for posting your film Chris. I enjoyed a "tourist visit" to Wells on my computer this morning.

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Thanks,i came back on to post this one around somerset
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