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post #3751 of 3771 Old 09-16-2016, 03:11 PM
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If low light performance is a prime concern which one of these produce better? Based on the specs AX100 should be better
but how does it look and compare in reality?
I understand that the ax100 will be better in low light due to the larger sensor, however i don't really know. Bcnews on yt has videos from both cameras as I am sure other members do on here. I live in a dark country town not a city, so will be off to shoot in London one day next week... The ax53 is very good. The ability to do slow motion is very handy:
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If low light performance is a prime concern which one of these produce better? Based on the specs AX100 should be better
but how does it look and compare in reality?
This about all of the low light footage that I have shot but am more than happy with. However the thunderstorm upload has some nasty compression..
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If low light performance is a prime concern which one of these produce better? Based on the specs AX100 should be better
but how does it look and compare in reality?
I have shot a video on a dark road with a petrol station as a bright light source. I went from zero gain on AGC to twenty four dB and I am pleased to say how usable it seems (no YT compression). I will post this in a day or two as I have just done my unboxing and today a selection of clips. London beckons probably Friday for a London night shooting fest..

I did the clips because when I rendered my unboxing ( a mix of shots from the PJ620 and AX53) it was all HD..

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I have shot a video on a dark road with a petrol station as a bright light source. I went from zero gain on AGC to twenty four dB and I am pleased to say how usable it seems (no YT compression). I will post this in a day or two as I have just done my unboxing and today a selection of clips. London beckons probably Friday for a London night shooting fest..

I did the clips because when I rendered my unboxing ( a mix of shots from the PJ620 and AX53) it was all HD..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c75N5zAePQ
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Thanks! nice clips too.
Thank you! Now embedded in my blog is the low light gain run through, if you would like to see it click here: https://soundsandimages.wordpress.com/
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Thank you! Now embedded in my blog is the low light gain run through, if you would like to see it click here: https://soundsandimages.wordpress.com/
I went to your blog and viewed your "4K Clips" video. I liked it.

Two comments:

1. You say "Then in 2016 an improved sensor gave smaller pixels and a true 16:9 ratio." You mean larger pixels, because that is what happened. You are correct the sensor is 16:9 unlike the AX100 and the AX33.

2. What is all this useful information about the AX53 doing in the AX100 thread? How about moving to the AX53 thread, or start a new one?

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Firmware 3.10 is available

I didn't see it mentioned in this forum and was surprised when I checked the fdr-ax100 page.
There is a firmware update from 3.00 to 3.10 first available 4/26/2016.

"Allows the camera to record XAVCS format video with an SDHC card in addition to SDXC card."

https://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model...d#/downloadTab

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Thanks for the heads up.
Did the FW update, went w/o any problems after I removed the memory card. Time will tell if it was worth it because the display of data like recording time will now only stay for a few seconds and go way. I do not like that.

I found the AX53 videos interesting but will keep the AX100.

OOPS - data display , my bad.

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A bit strange. I knew people were losing interest in the 4K home videos being posted, but I expected maybe ONE comment on my latest Germany videos. I really got some interesting shots. Did anyone watch them?
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I certainly do, impressed by the video and the travels you do. I took a lot of travel videos too and hope to someday burn them on a UHD BR. Do not have player yet but will get one as soon as there is SW to do that.

On the 4K PC monitor that AX100 video is still stunning, even for a over two year old camera.!

Keep them coming

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I certainly do, impressed by the video and the travels you do. I took a lot of travel videos too and hope to someday burn them on a UHD BR. Do not have player yet but will get one as soon as there is SW to do that.

On the 4K PC monitor that AX100 video is still stunning, even for a over two year old camera.!

Keep them coming

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Thanks. If it ever looks like people have become completely uninterested in my videos and I stop posting them here, you will always be able to find them on my Youtube page https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGZ...ki9lc3psdlCiJg
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Thanks. If it ever looks like people have become completely uninterested in my videos and I stop posting them here, you will always be able to find them on my Youtube page https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGZ...ki9lc3psdlCiJg
So where are you planning on going next?
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My next trip is in October on a cruise to Panama on the Coral Princesses.
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I went to your blog and viewed your "4K Clips" video. I liked it.

Two comments:

1. You say "Then in 2016 an improved sensor gave smaller pixels and a true 16:9 ratio." You mean larger pixels, because that is what happened. You are correct the sensor is 16:9 unlike the AX100 and the AX33.

2. What is all this useful information about the AX53 doing in the AX100 thread? How about moving to the AX53 thread, or start a new one?
1. Thanks for the info and reminder, I will change that.

2. as nobody was really posting in this thread, there is nothing really happening in the AX53 thread. As it happens somebody was looking at both cameras, so easy to compare....
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Does anyone know if the SanDisk 256 GB or 512 GB SDXC media cards will work in the FDR-AX100?

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Panama Canal Cruise.

Video from 3 sources: AX-100, S7 cellphone, GoPro Hero.
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Video from 3 sources: AX-100, S7 cellphone, GoPro Hero.
Nice video. The rain forest section was interesting -- must seem quite cut off from the rest of the world once the cable car takes you down to the bottom.

What was the idea behind using the GoPro for the restaurant shot?

It was nice to see how well the image held up on YouTube. I watched it at 1440p on a 27" iMac, and it was surprising to see just how much information the image held.

When watching on a large(r) screen, there were a couple of shots where some extra stabilization might have proved useful, although you wouldn't notice this when watching on a smaller screen. I don't know if your editing software allows for this?

Well, that's a few areas of the world that I hadn't seen before.

What did you think of the ship (food, accommodation, entertainment, etc)?
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Thanks so much for the comments on my video. I use Final Cut Pro, but the stabilization doesn't work very well if there is horizontal movement in the video.
I had just bought the GoPro and that is why I was taking video of the tables (plus it is extreme wide angle.) Unfortunately, the GoPro is not too effective in low light.
The Coral Princess had excellent food and entertainment. Unfortunately, there was something on the ship, and probably in my room, to which I was allergic. I had a rash and itch from the first day and all the way through the cruise. I never figured out what it was.
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My disappointment was great whenPD15 came out without suitable burning SW for UHD BR. To this date I am unaware of such burning software being available from other sources.

The Samsung UBD K8500 will play 4K and other video files from its USB port as well as from a BD. So far it has played 265 HEVC and 264 4K and 2K files with bit rates to 100.

Unfortunately it cannot handle HD 60P discs burned by PD.



The Phillips UHD player handled HD 60P but none of the other files, it reports "no files"

So for me that is an interim solution until we get the proper software to do this correctly.

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Chenderson2, I would have the same comment on your last video, the ones you made before look more stable.
Keep them coming.



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I use Final Cut Pro, but the stabilization doesn't work very well if there is horizontal movement in the video.
I use FCP X (10.3) and I find that the built-in stabilizer works really well. I used to use CoreMelt's 'Lock & Load' because of its speed, but I'm now tending to use FCP's stabilization, with L&L if that doesn't work.

I think that there are very few shots taken with a hand-held camera that I don't stabilize in post, and I find myself using the 'Tripod Mode' on many occasions for 'static' shots. The AX100 has very good stabilization, but can usually do with a little bit of a 'helping hand' in post.

What size screen are you watching on?

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I had just bought the GoPro and that is why I was taking video of the tables (plus it is extreme wide angle.) Unfortunately, the GoPro is not too effective in low light.
Yes, I bought -- and still have -- the original GoPro and find that I never really used it much because of its low-light issues .... even on cloudy days. I believe that the latest GoPros are better, but I tend to use an Osmo (X3) where in previous times I might have used a GoPro.
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I have found, personally, that I am never satisfied with Final Cut stabilization unless I can use the tripod mode. That is why I mentioned horizontal movement, as that is when the tripod mode will not work.
The Hero 4 isn't real bad with low light, but the light in the dining room was not only low but really uneven with hot spots.
I edit the video on a 15" Mac Book Pro, but ultimately watch it on a 78" Samsung TV.
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