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I'm looking for a decent handheld camcorder that will give me the great features of stabilization and High definition but also provide me with something that shoots at at least 120fps or even more. Anyone any ideas on what is gonna be my best option?

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I'm looking for a decent handheld camcorder that will give me the great features of stabilization and High definition but also provide me with something that shoots at at least 120fps or even more. Anyone any ideas on what is gonna be my best option?

Hi gazza - It really depend on the resolution and sensor size you want (and how much you're willing to pay smile.gif)

1080p and higher

Phantom Flex 4K - 2K/1000p or 4K/1000p - $99,000 to $159,000

Here is what the 1080p version of this camera can do:



Sony NEX-FS700 - 1080/240p - (w external recorder 2K/120p) - $7449.89 body only, $8249 with the 18-200mm power zoom

Here is what this camera can do:





720p

Panasonic DMC-FZ200 - 720/120p - $419

Here are a couple of examples of what this camera can do at 720/120p:






Panasonic DMC-ZS30 - 720/120p - $298


Panasonic DMC-LX7 - 720/120p - $298

Several of the action cameras (e.g., the GoPro Hero 3 Black, the Sony HDR-AS10/AS15 and the Panasonic HX-A100) can shoot 720/120p - and there has been some fantastic slo-mo shot with the GoPro - but they are not very capable camcorders (no zoom, etc)

VGA

JVC GC-PX100 - 120, 240 and 300 fps at 640x300 (VGA) resolution - 420 and 600 fps at 420x176 - $855.99

VGA/240fps doesn't look too bad (please watch at the highest resolution available):




Hope this is helpful!

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Thanks Bill!

 

I think the phantom flex 4k might be just out of my price range!

 

Yeah I have a GoPro but it's extremely restricting. I just wish there was something at consumer level that had a 1080/120 or 240 filming capability. I'm sure something might soon crop up but for now I'll lie in wait!

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Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. If you have a short-term need, and can borrow an NEX lens, you can always rent an FS700 body over a weekend for $430, postage paid smile.gif

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Thanks Bill!

I think the phantom flex 4k might be just out of my price range!

Yeah I have a GoPro but it's extremely restricting. I just wish there was something at consumer level that had a 1080/120 or 240 filming capability. I'm sure something might soon crop up but for now I'll lie in wait!
This new Panasonic camcorder does 240 fps .
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Capture Slow Motion at Full HD
Records natively at up 120 fps in Full HD resolution. In addition, the Intelligent Frame Creation feature allows you to apply a 2x slow-down to your footage in-camera, allowing you to create videos with an effective 240 fps for extreme slow-motion effects
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1023342-REG/panasonic_hc_w850_twin_camera_full.html
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Or you can buy a good 1080/60p camera, with a nice resolution and full manual control. You can increase your shutter speed to get sharp frames and then you can use twixtor in post to create a 2000fps effect. Works really well.


Two examples:

https://vimeo.com/27612305
https://vimeo.com/17439665
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The V750 does seam like what you're looking for. Same internals as the W850 but without the second camera. It's also only $600.
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For the high speed video/ slow motion application -

Do you want mostly to accurately analyze high speed motions such as athletics, including using stop-action single-frame?

Or do you want mostly to produce attractive and entertaining videos for playback at 30 fps?
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Sorry I didn't see this post, I'm still looking for the camera of my needs! Unfortunately now i'm running out of time.

 

In answer to this previous question, I want to use it for sport films, such as snowboarding/skiing/mountain biking etc. Slow motion of extreme sports.

 

At the moment I'm looking like having to go with the Panasonic 750 but it's still not giving me exactly what I'm after. Nothing really out there on the market in my price range - £2000

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In answer to this previous question, I want to use it for sport films, such as snowboarding/skiing/mountain biking etc. Slow motion of extreme sports.

 

At the moment I'm looking like having to go with the Panasonic 750 but it's still not giving me exactly what I'm after. Nothing really out there on the market in my price range - £2000

Have you tried the 750? Its slo-mo is designed for slowing the action in sports filming. What you may not be aware (as it doesn't advertise it) you can get both 1/2 speed and 1/4 speed. The file created during slo-mo can be processed in the "Playback" mode to give a second file at 1/2 the speed of the first. I have used the slo-mo on my 750 a number of times and found it to produce excellent smooth video.

 

Suggest you try before you discard the 750.

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Ok, I might take you up on that, and the 850 is pointless for the extra cost as far as my shooting wants are concerned?

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The second camera on the 850 is IMO a waste of time and a gimmick. The only extra that I would have liked to play with is the infra red night mode that the 850 has and the 750 hasn't. Ah Well:(

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Ok, Thanks very much!

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