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That Samsung looks like a really good budget 4k monitor. I always like Linus' tech reviews he's funny and informative.

I am holding out for a larger than 24" that is better than TN panel, calibrated, that can do 60hz or better.
(Yes I do play games occasionally.)

Also- anyone notice your current software not scaling properly on the 4k monitors? Like your NLEs or other software?
Are the fonts tiny and hard to see? Would a larger monitor help ?
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Toshiba now has a 4K laptop with an extraordinary screen. Having compared it to my Dell 4K monitor, I find the colors on the Toshiba (also individually calibrated), to be more accurate. There is no red push on this display and skin tones, regardless of complexion, seem spot on.
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Seiki 4K TV-monitor now $369

http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-SE39UY04.../dp/B00DOPGO2G


You can view native, real 4K on a relatively big screen (39") for $369. Now with firmware updates and user experiences it makes a fine monitor or TV.
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I bought the 28" Samsung monitor and used it to edit my Germany videos. It looks great, but as someone said, the viewing angle is tricky. It actually has an adjustment for changing the prefered viewing angle (vertically.) However, my set had some little horizontal lines that would show up in sections of the picture, so after doing my editing, I took it back to Best Buy. They would not exchange it, because it was beyond the 30 day exchange period. So, it is still with them. I took it in on June 19th. They really don't know what they are doing. They keep ordering parts from Samsung that are always on back order, so I don't know when I'll get it back. I also suspect that it won't be actually repaired, and I'll end up sending it to Samsung, which I should have done in the first place. I does have a 3 year Samsung warranty.
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^ I have the same Samsung monitor and really enjoy it. I've never understood people getting obsessed over viewing angles for a computer monitor. Most people sit directly in front of the monitor and rarely have someone sitting alongside them. So for me it's a total non-issue.

With that said, it would have been nice if there had been a height adjustment like the Dell I had previously. The adjustment capability of the Dell was far better than the Samsung. Yet I do prefer the picture of the Samsung.
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Did some side by side testing with the ASUS PB287Q 4K monitor https://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/PB287Q/
along side my Monoprice 2560x1440 monitor recently. The Asus is a very nice monitor, with a great stand that is adjustable in several different ways. The Asus is a TN panel, while my Monoprice is a IPS monitor. The Asus had more color saturation with the 4K panel, and of course a little bit more detail, yet the Monoprice had the better overall picture to me. I took the Asus back and will wait till I can get an IPS or equivalent 4K monitor for a decent price.
My Monoprice monitor has edge to edge glass and it just gave more pop than the Asus with its matte screen.

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Blasst, I too prefer a glass screen on my monitor, any monitor. However I've yet to see a 4K monitor with anything other than a matte screen. There's something about glass screens, despite their sometimes annoying reflections, that give a depth to the image that no matte screen can quite match.
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Ken,

I hear ya. Where I sit, there are no windows directly behind me in my theater room, so no reflections for me. Monoprice will be releasing a 4K monitor later this summer and looks to have a glass screen, though I'm sure it will be a TN panel.

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Seiki 39" 4K monitor now $329

It's real 4K, and it's 39". And pros think the color is very good. Just viewing your photos on it makes it worthwhile (they are all much greater than 1080 resolution).


$329, free shipping from Amazon!


http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-SE39UY04.../dp/B00DOPGO2G
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Interesting read imo -- TN panels are used for sub $1K panels


"As I mentioned above, TN panels don't reproduce colors as accurately as IPS panels, so they're not good for designers. Chris: "The color gamut is usually far lower (perhaps 30-40% of the sRGB gamut instead of 70-100%) so there are a lot of colors it just can’t reproduce. That’s going to make it less ideal for any sort of photo or video work."


http://www.tested.com/tech/pcs/45987...ll-4k-monitor/
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Interesting read imo -- TN panels are used for sub $1K panels


"As I mentioned above, TN panels don't reproduce colors as accurately as IPS panels, so they're not good for designers. Chris: "The color gamut is usually far lower (perhaps 30-40% of the sRGB gamut instead of 70-100%) so there are a lot of colors it just can’t reproduce. That’s going to make it less ideal for any sort of photo or video work."


http://www.tested.com/tech/pcs/45987...ll-4k-monitor/
Is he talking about 6-bit TN panels having 40% of the color gamut of 8-bit panels?

The cheaper 4k displays are 10-bit TN panels, so even if they don't display a significant percentage of their color gamut (as mentioned above) there are still way more unique colors displayed.

Why do all the reviews keep bringing up viewing angle? How many people huddle around your monitor to watch it? This isn't a TV in a big room, monitors are usually one person per.
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Why do all the reviews keep bringing up viewing angle? How many people huddle around your monitor to watch it?
Hundreds, sometimes thousands.

Seriously, for me, viewing angle is about the least important thing I can think of for a computer monitor.
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On June 16 the 65" 4K Seiki was $999.


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The new LG 4K UHD displays make everything 4x better !

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Joe, I can't wait to see the street pricing of the 77" monster!
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Ken, I see it costs $24,600 in Canada.
http://www.oled-info.com/lgs-77-curv...s-canada-24600
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I'll take 2 Joe.
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^ Well, 30fps is working just fine in the current AX100 and GH4 4K camcorders, so most of us are very grateful it wasn't 'consigned to history'. Oh, and if you hate 30fps, you must really love 24 & 25fps that are also in the UHD standard.

Now, with that said, a 4K monitor with HDMI 2.0 would make the display more compatible with the inevitable 4K 60p cameras that will eventually arrive. HDMI 2.0 was the reason I didn't get a 4K UHD TV in 2013, it hadn't yet arrived.
Two major issues for me that stop me buying a 4K display limited to 30fps :

1. I would like to edit 720p, 1080i and 1080p content at 50 or 60Hz and use the 4K screen real estate. Can only do this at lower resolution 1080p - which negates the reason to have a 4K screen for editing.

2. If I'm buying a 4K screen I want to watch 4K broadcasts on it. The current tests (like the World Cup 4K coverage from Brazil) on OTA and satellite in Europe are 2160/50p or 2160/60p. Couldn't display those on a 30p limited display.

Been very tempted mind...
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Virtually all of the 2014 UHD TVs are now 4K @60p. In fact, some of the 2013 models received firmware/hardware updates that allow some of them to do the same.

I don't believe we've seen the same turn-around with 4K computer monitors.
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