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Looks like 42nd St Photo had the correct price in the US before any other dealer.

have you bought from this shop? is it the same as 47th Street Photo from years ago?
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have you bought from this shop? is it the same as 47th Street Photo from years ago?
No, I only purchase from B&H in NYC. I don't think it's the same as 47th St Photo.
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have you bought from this shop? is it the same as 47th Street Photo from years ago?
Billy,

42nd Street has up and down reviews and reputation. 47th Street gets much better and more consistent reviews. My favorites list is B&H, Amazon and Adorama. All have fantastic customer service. I may soon add Kenmore Camera because they are a 45 minute drive. B&H and Adorama don't charge me sales tax! Amazon and Kenmore do.

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Billy,

42nd Street has up and down reviews and reputation. 47th Street gets much better and more consistent reviews. My favorites list is B&H, Amazon and Adorama. All have fantastic customer service. I may soon add Kenmore Camera because they are a 45 minute drive. B&H and Adorama don't charge me sales tax! Amazon and Kenmore do.

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Amazon and Adorama charges 7% NJ sales tax and B&H does not for NJ customers purchasing online.
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A very low light/high ISO and S-LOG 2 test (starting at ISO 3200) test in the woods with the Sony A7S to hyperdeck shuttle. The shots are ungraded, but it's clear that the low light is something incredible. It's been said by a user that it's cleaner at 80,000 ISO than the Canon C100 at 20,000 ISO....which is amazing considering the C100 has been the low light king for its price range (or anywhere near it) that crushed just about everything else anywhere near its price range in low light. Can't wait to see more footage and some graded shots. This camera is looking to be killer!
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Man I hope this camera will deliver a good regular image. I have an A7 which I think is really nice and if I could get it with a cleaner image, the sensitivity, low mp, bitrate, 4k-out.... instant buy.
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Man I hope this camera will deliver a good regular image. I have an A7 which I think is really nice and if I could get it with a cleaner image, the sensitivity, low mp, bitrate, 4k-out.... instant buy.

And how will you record 4K - instantly?
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And how will you record 4K - instantly?
I wouldnt, thats why I wrote "4k-out"
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DxO rates it an 87 overall with a disappointing 13.2 EVs of dynamic range.

http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Sony-...ow-light-champ
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DxO rates it an 87 overall with a disappointing 13.2 EVs of dynamic range.

http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Sony-...ow-light-champ
"Sony A7s gets DxOmarked. Easily beats the Nikon DF and becomes new low light champion!"


http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-...ight-champion/


Getting mixed messages
IMO, if it really has 13stops in video mode, in other words same as the BMD-cameras it is quite amazing. But as always Im not convinced unil I have seen what it does for regular users, the reviewers I like, and tried it for myself.
Also I will try to wait until they show up used which usually happens just a month or two after the release and at 30-40% of. Thats why Im a Little bit interested in the AX100 again, people are having a tuff time getting rid of them so its open for real low ball prices.
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The major problem for the AX100 in my area is that it started shipping too late (this week!) in an "E" version (not sure if 24p, 30P is enabled aside from the usual 25p) which I guess is similar to the version on sale in Europe. When it went on sale the news about the Panasonic FZ1000 had already been out, so had the final selling price of the A7S. The fact that the A7S' price is closer to the AX100's than it is in the US market is not helping the AX100's sales one bit.

It is quite obvious at this moment that the speed of the progress from HD to 4K is faster than the transition period in both the pro and consumer markets from SD to HD in the early 2000's. Not only are the choices coming up in a very short time but the cost of adopting the new format looks to fall rapidly as well.

Selling 4K stuff into this kind of market is going to lose one a lot of money. The sole 4K cameras in my studio for the past two months are Oppo Find 7a cell phones that shoot 4K clips for a few clients and ourselves for the web. The rigs and accessories that go with these two phones cost many times the device's but are absolutely necessary to "tame" its inherent weaknesses as a camcorder. However, we just take some comfort in that these rigs are not going to become outdated too fast or cost us too much when we need to do the upgrade, maybe in the next few months?
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DxO rates it an 87 overall with a disappointing 13.2 EVs of dynamic range.

http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Sony-...ow-light-champ
I purchased the 36mp A7r instead since I want to use it for daytime stills under 3200 iso and 24x36" prints using the ultra sharp Zeiss 35mm F2.8 FE and 55mm F1.8 FE prime lenses. I use my Panasonic GH4 for cinema 4K video and full frame 24mp Sony VG900 camcorder for low light stills and 1080p60 video using F1.4 24mm-85mm primes.


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I purchased the 36mp A7r instead ...
I did almost the same thing. Found a really cheap A7 at a store (it had been on display but the box was unopened) which I bought partly to evaluate if FF was for me and if the Sony was nice to work with. If answer to both was "yes" I could either upgrade to the A7s or just keep it.
If it wasnt for me at all I could sell it without loosing almost anything.


Right now Im really likeing it for stills together with all my vintage glass which is nice because I lost interest in taking stills as a hobby about a year ago and only recently started snaping photos again when I whent back into analog and home processing.
The A7s is very interesting but if I dont get it I will definitely keep the A7.
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The 36mp full frame A7r is amazing since it's so much smaller then my APS-C Pentax K-7 DSLR that I have had for five years and is my last DSLR and have gone mirrorless since. Here it is with the ultra sharp 35mm F2.8 FE Zeiss and my K-7 with 105mm F2.8 Kiron Macro.

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A7s vs F3, F55, FS700
The identity of the cameras are still secret but they will unveil it soon.

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Regarding this camera,i have not read the whole thread but is there an adaptor like the one for Pana GH models that allow any lenses IE Canon to be used on the A7
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Regarding this camera,i have not read the whole thread but is there an adaptor like the one for Pana GH models that allow any lenses IE Canon to be used on the A7
Yes you can use just about all fullframe lenses ever made on the A7s and there is an adaptor for Canon lenses with electronics.

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Yes you can use just about all fullframe lenses ever made on the A7s and there is an adaptor for Canon lenses with electronics.
Thats interesting but what about my Canon EF - S f/4-5.6 IS STM non full frame Lenses etc.
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Yes you can use just about all fullframe lenses ever made on the A7s and there is an adaptor for Canon lenses with electronics.
Thats interesting,so even my non full frame Canon 55-25 EOSM STM and others could be used with an adaptor like http://briansmith.com/sony-a7-a7r-lens-mount-adapters/ i found.But that is one expensive adaptor.this is a good price
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/18145...f14=108&ff19=0
But the A7s is too expensive for me plus when i go 4K it has to be without a separate recorder

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Thats interesting but what about my Canon EF - S f/4-5.6 IS STM non full frame Lenses etc.
It will work but it will vignette. The EF-E-mount adapter I use is from Metabones.
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Thats interesting but what about my Canon EF - S f/4-5.6 IS STM non full frame Lenses etc.




You could use that APS-C lens in APS-C mode on the full frame Sony VG900, a7, a7r and a7s.

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  • A7R (Mark III supports auto "APS-C Size Capture" with EF-S lens)
http://www.metabones.com/products/details/MB-EF-E-BM3

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Metabones® introduces third-generation Smart Adapter™ for mounting EF and EF-S mount lenses on Sony NEX cameras. Smart Adapter™ III is now also compatible with the full-frame NEX camera VG900, with auto-crop support so that both full-frame and cropped lenses can be used without any configuration.
http://www.metabones.com/article/of/...-smart-adapter
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Sony a7S used to shoot Chevrolet commercial

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Film industry accessory manufacturer Cinoflex was recently tasked with rigging up a new Sony a7S mirrorless camera for use on a Chevrolet commercial. After some testing, the Cinoflex Type SA7S Camera System was created to allow the filmmakers to attach the necessary range of auxiliary equipment needed on a high budget commercial shoot.

The a7S features a full-frame sensor which is much larger than the Super 35 sized sensors found in typical high-end digital video cameras like the Red Epic or the Arri Alexa, two of the cameras that you would normally expect to find on such a project. The larger sensor, coupled with the low 12.2MP pixel count, gives the a7S excellent low light performance, a claimed 15.3 stop dynamic range and a maximum ISO setting of 409,600.

'Our specific tests we're focused on lens fall-off and sensor reaction. The dynamic range was also very surprising, great tonal rendition in the shadows...Truly a WOW camera for the quality of the sensor' said Cinoflex.

Whilst Sony designed the 4K capable a7S with video in mind, there's always considerable ergonomic challenges to overcome when you want to incorporate such a small camera into a professional shoot. The Type SA7S rig creates a solid platform behind the camera that has allowed Cinoflex to add a large Anton Bauer battery pack, as well as wireless controls for focusing the enormous Nikon 600mm f/4 lens. Since the a7S only features an HDMI output for the video feed, and most professional on-set equipment uses HD-SDI, the rig is also fitted with an HDMI to HD-SDI converter.
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