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http://www.dvinfo.net/article/acquisition/nab2014-jvc-demonstrates-four-new-4k-large-sensor-cameras-for-digital-cinema.html
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So, I guess the GY-LSX2 is the camera that would be of interest to this crowd.

Hand held camcorder with an interchangeable lens. I would guess that it would cost something in the $1.5-2K range.
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So, I guess the GY-LSX2 is the camera that would be of interest to this crowd.

Hand held camcorder with an interchangeable lens. I would guess that it would cost something in the $1.5-2K range.
I bet it cost more than $2K.
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Maybe not. Not having to include a lens should reduce the price considerably, so you would be looking at GH4 pricing levels.

But, on the other hand, the handle might bump it up I suppose. If the handle is an optional add on, then it functionally is no different from a AX100, but without the lens. In that case it would likely be under 2K.
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The GW-SPLS1 looks interesting as a sort of home studio sort of camera as well.
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I'd assume JVC has abandoned their whacky 4 HD streams=1 4K output methodology. Talk about non-starters. Try to find a UHD TV that accepts 4 HD, HDMI quadrant outputs and can then assemble them into a coherent 4K video. Good luck with that. wink.gif

But I'm sure this will be 4K via one single HDMI output.
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These cameras have HDMI 2.0, so that should be enough for the data throughput on a single link.
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Yup, that's why I said what I did.
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These cameras have HDMI 2.0, so that should be enough for the data throughput on a single link.
It's too bad we have HDMI instead of DisplayPort since it's much faster and V1.3 will support 8K @ 32.4 Gbit/s .
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LSX2 looks nice. Hopefully JVC has finally fixed its crappy image stabilizer.
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4K @30p for the LSX2
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4K @30p for the LSX2
No deal. OTOH, if it has 1080p60 (and all other framerates) @ 10-bit 4:2:2 then it could be a great HD camera.
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Would never buy a 4K camera just for HD, but everyone is different. We're moving in to a 4K world. smile.gif
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LSX2 looks nice. Hopefully JVC has finally fixed its crappy image stabilizer.

Since it is an interchangeable lens camera, they will probably be relying mostly on your lens to do that.
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It'll be under $5,000 according to JVC. Hopefully it'll have 2160 60p if it;s anywhere near close to that price.
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Why would they put a m4/3rds mount with a S-35 ( APS-C) sensor ? JVC is so out to lunch.
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I actually asked them about that because I was very confused. One of them didn't understand what I was saying while another agreed that their could be a crop. My theory is that its eighter a crop or that the chip is really M43 sized.

Maybe the mount could somehow be removable so that you can use different ones.
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They are prototypes, estimated for a 2015 release, so probably very rough mockups that don't actually work.

My guess is that they are using the same sensor in all the cameras for development work, which is why the two smaller ones have the larger sensor even though it doesn't make sense. Chances are they will use smaller versions of the sensor in the final products (assuming they ever see the light of day).

Since they are all using the same sensor (and probably the same processor), chances are that all three of them will be able to do 4k at 60P.
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So I guess we'll be getting more info about these cameras real soon.
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/digital-...4-3-mount.html

I was crazy enough to attend NAB but I don't know if I'd be crazy enough to take a trip to New York to check out a working prototype of this camera. Definitely cheaper though going from Boston to New York then from Boston to Las Vegas.Maybe if the prices were decent and it offered 4K 60p, I'd think about going.
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http://jvcpro.eu/video/news/1295/lat...-from-ibc2014/

Does not go above 30p in 4K. Derp.
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By the time they come out with their m4/3rd camera with 4K 30p Panasonic will have their GH5 with 4K 60p.
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By the time JVC comes out with their 4K 60p camera, Canon will be releasing 4K 30p
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4K UHD MFT mount camera coming Feb 2015 for $4,450

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  • Micro Four Thirds System Lens Mount
  • Variable Scan Mapping maintains native angle of view for a variety of lenses including Super 35, MFT, and Super 16. Adapters available for PL and EF mount lenses
  • 4K Ultra HD recording (150 Mbps, 24p/30p) to SDXC (UHS-I Speed class3) card
  • 4:2:2 Full HD recording at 50Mbps (24p-60p)
  • 3 position ND filter (1/4, 1/16 and 1/64)
  • HD-SDI (3G) and HDMI outputs (4K output via HDMI only)
  • 2-channel XLR audio inputs with phantom power
  • Shotgun microphone included
  • Dual SDHC/SDXC slots enable Dual, Backup and Continuous recording
  • Advanced JVC streaming engine compatible with USTREAM, Zixi, and Wowza Streaming Engine
  • IP Network Remote Control, Remote Viewing, Metadata editing, FTP clips
  • 3.5-inch color LCD display (920K pixel) with smart focus assist function
  • 0.24-inch color viewfinder (1.56M pixel) with smart focus assist function
  • Wired remote control supported
  • 10 user button assignable functions
  • Includes handle unit, SSL-JVC50 7.4V battery, AC adapter, and shotgun microphone
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...eld_s35mm.html


http://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/...eo-cameras-jvc
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Now drop the price to $2-2.5K and I will be interested.
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