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jcurtin87 04-21-2014 05:41 PM

Hey guys,

 

 

First post on here. For the past 6 months I've been making GoPro video compilations and have had a blast doing so. Recently I gained the interest of a friend who hosts bus parties to concerts around the area. What the day consists of is a pre-party at a house, a bus ride to the concert, tailgating, the concert itself, and the bus ride back. 

 

My question is should I invest in a new camcorder to capture this video? Or will the GoPro be sufficient enough to capture and create a nice quality event video?

 

If I should invest in a new camcorder, what would be a very affordable one to invest in? I was looking at this one:

http://filmschoolhomestudy.com/jvc-1-5-megapixel-1080p-high-definition-everio-dig/

 

Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated!

 

 

 

-Joey


xfws 04-21-2014 06:05 PM

The Canon EOS M is about the most affordable camera that has a large image sensor. This will help with low light conditions. The kit with the 18-55 lens has optical stabilization:
http://www.amazon.com/Mirrorless-Digital-Camera-18-55mm-3-5-5-6/dp/B00BFWV8S0/ref=sr_1_10/180-8817002-7458955?ie=UTF8&qid=1398124631&sr=8-10&keywords=EOS+M

A camcorder, such as the one you linked, has a much smaller image sensor and the footage will be have a lot of noise/not look good inside a club/concert/indoors.

The EOS M also has full manual control over exposure and the ability to change the firmware with extended functionality, with something called "Magic Lantern". The camcorder should be okay with proper lighting and may actually be easier to use/or if you really just want to point and shoot to capture video...but if you're getting into 'filmmaking' you want something better.

I know this is a bit of extra money from the JVC, but it's worth it if you want to further yourself with video.


Canon EOS M videos:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=canon+eos-m+video+test

extra batteries are necessary/as many as you can get:
http://www.amazon.com/Opteka-2000mAh-Capacity-Battery-Cameras/dp/B00D1W5MM0/ref=pd_sim_p_3/180-8817002-7458955?ie=UTF8&refRID=1M0Y3X5CMB5N937BWC61

You should also consider a cheap video editor, such as Vegas Movie Studio Platinum.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/180-8817002-7458955?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Vegas%20Movie%20Studio%20Platinum

flintyplus 04-22-2014 12:24 AM

https://vimeo.com/92449111

https://vimeo.com/92451189

There is also an adaptor that allows any Canon EFS type lens to used.For me lack of a viewfinder is the big downer but i like my ESO M that my camcorder has not done much lately.

coolscan 04-22-2014 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by flintyplus View Post

There is also an adaptor that allows any Canon EFS type lens to used.For me lack of a viewfinder is the big downer but i like my ESO M that my camcorder has not done much lately.

Strangely enough - Canon is coming with a Electronic Viewfinder for the PowerShot G1 X Mark II as an accessory in May - (Canon EVF-DC1 Electronic Viewfinder $299) - wouldn't it be logical of Canon to make this so it could function on all Canon cameras that lack viewfinder?

They could even make a small transformer box so it could be used via HDMI on all their DSLRs - in that way they would sell a ton of these................



brunerww 04-22-2014 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jcurtin87 View Post

Hey guys,


First post on here. For the past 6 months I've been making GoPro video compilations and have had a blast doing so. Recently I gained the interest of a friend who hosts bus parties to concerts around the area. What the day consists of is a pre-party at a house, a bus ride to the concert, tailgating, the concert itself, and the bus ride back. 

My question is should I invest in a new camcorder to capture this video? Or will the GoPro be sufficient enough to capture and create a nice quality event video?

If I should invest in a new camcorder, what would be a very affordable one to invest in? I was looking at this one:
http://filmschoolhomestudy.com/jvc-1-5-megapixel-1080p-high-definition-everio-dig/

Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated!



-Joey

Hi Joey - your GoPro will give you better images than that $200 JVC. As others have suggested, if you can increase your budget a little, a $350 Canon EOS-M would give you much better images.

Here is what this camera can do:

Fashion (shot in RAW):



Live music (shot in RAW):



Skate:



If you can't afford $350, even a $205 Pentax Q interchangeable lens camera would be better than that JVC.

Here is what the Pentax Q can do:



Hope this is helpful and good luck with your new project!

Bill
Hybrid Camera Revolution

flintyplus 04-23-2014 12:13 AM

Yes i would not go back to the GH2 i had before or change to a G5/G6,the EOS M colors are better for me .


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