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Blackmagic Design Pocket Cinema Camera Fire Sale !

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Blackmagic Design Announces Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera for US$495.
Fremont, CA - July 16, 2014 - Blackmagic Design today announced an exciting Summer Special discount for the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera for the low price of US$495. With a normal recommended retail price of US$995, this Summer Special represents incredible value and is available for a limited time and will end on the 31st of August 2014. This Summer Special price is subject to limited availability, after which the price will return to the usual recommended retail price of US$995.
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Something to make note on is that the 1" chip Studio Camera comes in 2 flavors. 1080p and 2160p. I suspect it might not be too long until Black Magic releases a 4K version of the pocket camera since they already have a chip ready. For sure it wont be anywhere near close to the $500 price tag of the current model.

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What a great deal. If we get the same price drop in Sweden I will buy one for sure. There about 50% of retail on the used market and I was close to pulling the trigger. But a new one for the same price sounds better.

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Something to make note on is that the 1" chip Studio Camera comes in 2 flavors. 1080p and 2160p. I suspect it might not be too long until Black Magic releases a 4K version of the pocket camera since they already have a chip ready. For sure it wont be anywhere near close to the $500 price tag of the current model.
I wonder how long before BM comes out with a cinema 4K (4196x2160) camera like the GH4.
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Is the fire sale because they catch fire?
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Is the fire sale because they catch fire?
You'll have to wait for the next BM firmware for that option


Mattias. I'm with you on this one, if it goes half price here in England, it's a no brainer. I have always liked the possibilities with this camera, and with such a silly price and nice cheap lens. I could easily live with any minor issues, just to have another option for a certain look.

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Is the fire sale because they catch fire?
Maybe.
http://petapixel.com/2014/03/22/blac...s-video-shoot/
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Never been a fan of this small piece of trouble but at this price getting one to play with probably doesn't hurt if you already have a few 4/3 lenses.
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You'll have to wait for the next BM firmware for that option


Mattias. I'm with you on this one, if it goes half price here in England, it's a no brainer. I have always liked the possibilities with this camera, and with such a silly price and nice cheap lens. I could easily live with any minor issues, just to have another option for a certain look.

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I never had any issues with my bmpcc but Ive heard of others, thats why a new one would be nice even if Im the biggest camera hustler on the used market in all of Sweden

Last week I bought an BMCC EF that had only been used once for the same price as the bmpcc before the price drop. In the US I guess that would be $1000. And with the new firmware the audio was suddenly usable without a preamp, my lenses got AF and the new Prores and Video Mode looks great.
After shooting with it this weekend Im verry happy and I realized how much I had missed the camera (had one last year).
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I wonder how long before BM comes out with a cinema 4K (4196x2160) camera like the GH4.
At the end of the price drop period they have an event in NYC. Many speculate on a new camera. If I could guess and/or wish I say,
4K Pocket Cam (studio cams sensor)
BMCC 2.5k with Aktive MFT
Or something new in the middle of the pocket and cinema cameras.

Some guess it could be that the HDMI version of URSA is ready and thats why they drop the price on the pocket. The pocket would be a nice companion to that thing.


EDIT: I think this guy might be on to something,

"They will take the sensor of the BMPC4K and will make a S16 crop of that sensor like they did from the BMCC to the BMPCC.
So we had 2.5K to 1080, that would be like 4K to 3076x1731 pixels. Let's just say they will make it 3K.
Same body as the BMPCC, same M43 mount same everything except it will use the new 280MB/s UHS3 SDXC and WILL record 3K RAW !!!!
It will be again 29.97 fps max (yeah let's not dream too much about this).
It will have the same micro-hdmi issues the bmpcc has etc etc etc...
Basically the same camera body using the new sensor of the 4K cam and a new UHS card writer. Very little engineering required and it will be available september/october like the bmpcc was back then.

Hopefully by then they can fix the FPN problem with the sensor. I would definitely be a client for that new pocket.
Price point between $1000-$1500 again super low for 3K RAW/PRORESHQ. I would assume that the BMCC would then be discontinued which will infuriated people on this forum. In december the URSA will be shipping and they will drop the price of the BMPC4K by $1000, and announce the BMPC6K as well as a 6K sensor for the URSA. (To compete with the RED Dragon)

Anybody want to take bets on all that stuff?
I think by now we understand their strategy in the market, and quite frankly it's pretty smart. They need very little R&D, just keep the camera bodies and put new sensors in them and asphyxiate the competition by dropping the prices down, even if it means that your products have some flaws that will never be addressed. It drives people mad over here I know, but in terms of management it is very smart if you look at what is going on in the camera business. BMD and Panasonic are going to take Canon and Nikon out of the VDSLR market. This fall Canon will announce the 7D Mark ii and it won't be doing 4K because they don't want to kill the C100/300/500 segment with a relatively cheap DSLR. I think by the end of next year Canon and Nikon will not even care about video users in their DSLR products as the market will be saturated by 4K cameras that will be cheaper and better. Maybe we will see GoPro give it a shot at a high end camera after raising all that IPO money (which would be pretty exciting)."

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"Same body as the BMPCC, same M43 mount same everything except it will use the new 280MB/s UHS3 SDXC and WILL record 3K RAW !!!!"

They are UHS-II not UHS3.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search...554+3953047286
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/649...iew/index.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...l/prm/alsVwDtl

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Also there was a new Firmware again today. All BMD Cameras now have the option of Prores 4:2:2 LT and 4:2:2 Proxys.
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I think BM cameras will only be a niche in the 4K market in the next year that will be dominated by Panasonic and Sony and 2015 will bring 4K @60fps with UHS-II U3 SDXC cards.
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I think BM cameras will only be a niche in the 4K market in the next year that will be dominated by Panasonic and Sony and 2015 will bring 4K @60fps with UHS-II U3 SDXC cards.
IMO
If not it would be a catastrophicall and all time epic fail of Sony and Panasonic.
If two of the worlds largest manufacturers of consumer and prosumer cameras where beaten by a small australian company that only targets the pure film (not video) making community, then they might as well quit.
Dont even think BMD themselfs have any sort of plan or ambition to outsell Sony or Panasonic in the next 10 years if ever
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The Price Drop just hit Sweden so I ordered one
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