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Sony a5100 with 1080p60 XAVC S @50mb/s

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I would not like to be working in marketing or product development at Canon or Nikon now where I would have to be trying to protect my DSLR business. Sony, Panasonic and Olympus seem to be continuing with compelling products for the world of smartphone users that expect hight performance from small devices.
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I would not like to be working in marketing or product development at Canon or Nikon now where I would have to be trying to protect my DSLR business. Sony, Panasonic and Olympus seem to be continuing with compelling products for the world of smartphone users that expect hight performance from small devices.
Two Canon models from 2011 are still on top.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-C...hoto/3017941#1
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Two Canon models from 2011 are still on top.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-C...hoto/3017941#1
Yes, but wouldn't it be nice for Canon if Sony and Panasonic would go back to TVs, disk players and home appliances where "they belong".
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Two Canon models from 2011 are still on top.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-C...hoto/3017941#1
On top of what ? Do you buy cameras for video use by sales numbers or specs ? For video use DSLRs are dead meat compared to the GH4 and A7s today IMHO.

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On top of what ? Do you buy cameras for video use by sales numbers or specs ? For video use DSLRs are dead meat compared to the GH4 and A7s today IMHO.
I agree, the GH4 and A7s are better cameras.

I was responding to bsprague's post that Canon might be worried about these new cameras from other companies. I'm just saying, that Canon models from 2011 are still on the top of Amazon's best seller list and they have nothing to worry about...as far as sales, and money and stuff.
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Mostly because the people buying those cameras are largely unaware of what Sony and Panasonic are doing. That is not always going to be true, which is something Canon and Nikon should be afraid of, because once they lose a customer to Sony or Panasonic, that customer is probably gone for good due to the way brand loyalty works in this market segment.
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I agree, most consumers buying cameras are clueless sheep and buy what other people are buying. When I first viewed Vincent Laforent’s REVERIE, shot with Canon EOS 5D Mark II almost six years ago it knocked my socks off but Canon has not come out with anything since to knock my socks off.
http://www.slashgear.com/vincent-laf...is-up-2216988/
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I agree, most consumers buying cameras are clueless sheep and buy what other people are buying. When I first viewed Vincent Laforent’s REVERIE, shot with Canon EOS 5D Mark II almost six years ago it knocked my socks off but Canon has not come out with anything since to knock my socks off.
I have both the EOS M and the T4i, I bought the latter just hoping for better video quality. Nope. Both are junk regarding video quality despite 50 Mbit/s bitrate. This bitrate is totally lost on these cameras. I still haven't sold them because I am being lazy, but ultimately I am going to buy something like the RX10. Screw Canon. Nikon is better coding-wise but worse noise-wise.

I am sure Sony makes much better use of this healthy 50 Mbit/s rate than Canon.
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Lately I don't think Canon or Nikon have either the will or resources to put up a fight against Sony, and to a lesser extent, Panasonic in the video or video/stills hybrid device markets. It looks like in the case of Nikon the best they could do is holding on to their DSLR market share for as long as they could. The same for Canon but their situation is better as they have been doing well not only in the DSLR but also in their professional C-series video camera market.

In the consumer camcorder market, it looks like everyone but Sony has resigned to the fate given to them by not only newer DSLRs but also cheaper P&S stills cameras and last but not least, cellphones. I have a feeling that even Sony themselves might be pondering the possibility of exiting this market as well if not for the emergence of 4K. You could say 4K has bought time for Sony to stay in this obviously fast shrinking market while they've tried to look for the next thing to catch on.

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