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post #1 of 12 Old 03-13-2007, 11:31 AM - Thread Starter
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this one is just great, on paper.

Would anyone know if it's compatible with FCP ? The camera uses MPEG-4 AVC/H.264.

I just can't wait for the right camera for me hard disk based only....

At $2k no unexpensive for a non-pro like me. I was looking carefully at the HV20, but hey, no more dam tapes !!!
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for the time being any HDV camera will compress the image far better than AVCHD cameras. AVCHD, at its present state, is artifacts galore.

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wow,
well, I know nothing about all these formats. Since the time of my last purchase (VX2K) I have not looked at what has been happening, happily I must say.

Now I decided I should get HD and here we go, a whole new learning curve. What a pain !! and my cam is sold so it's not that I have all that much time
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Whats so wrong with tapes?
They are great, cheap storage, you can buy them anywhere, its a mature techology, and standardized.

Be careful, you may get what you are asking for...
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I would stay away from AVCHD... too many problems. Maybe when (or if) it matures a little then you can have another look at it. But basic mpeg2 in many cases, (for the moment) is better
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Whats so wrong with tapes?
They are great, cheap storage, you can buy them anywhere, its a mature techology, and standardized.

Be careful, you may get what you are asking for...

capturing time !!!! for those who do editing at least.

Hard disk based cameras would eliminate an entire process that is very time consuming. It is the future anyway, tapes are archaic already

Sure, as archiving media they are great, but that's it.
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I would stay away from AVCHD... too many problems. Maybe when (or if) it matures a little then you can have another look at it. But basic mpeg2 in many cases, (for the moment) is better

very interesting....may be I stick to what I thought might be a good camera for me, the HV20.

The strange thing is that the Panasonic was pointed to me by a pro, who's very very good and even more so knowledgeable and up to date with this stuff. I must say however, he did not recommend it or anything, just pointed it out to me. In general he is a Canon dude.

I will see what he thinks of the format vs HDV.
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capturing time !!!! for those who do editing at least.

Hard disk based cameras would eliminate an entire process that is very time consuming. It is the future anyway, tapes are archaic already

Sure, as archiving media they are great, but that's it.

Dunno, my company do a lot of editing (we do weddings captured with by 4 cameramen using 4 HD cameras, sound engineer, boom operators) and if possible we use P2 cards (about 8 minutes each) rather than using HDD.

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I would stay away from AVCHD... too many problems. Maybe when (or if) it matures a little then you can have another look at it. But basic mpeg2 in many cases, (for the moment) is better

and basic mpeg2 would be HDV, correct ?
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no, although HDV uses MPEG2, there is also another HD standard (the same standard used by JVC new HD camcorder and Blu-ray) that uses a different variation of MPEG2.

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Yeah... don't get the 2 mixed up.... HDV is a standard... while mpeg2 is ONE of the formats used to PRESENT the standard. Of the formats though, mpeg 2 is by far the most popular. Though it is a bit on the inefficient side by today's standards, don't expect it to disappear any time soon. It'll be around for YEARS. Standard dvd's use it It's even being worked into the new blue laser technology (blu ray/hd dvd)... even the newest format contender, the 20gig quad-layer dvd.
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little by little (very little) and eventually I will get it, at least to the extent needed. Thx guys !!

Ultimately, all I want is a HD camera that is easy and works w/o problem with FCP on my Mac, just like my VX2000 used to. May be the HV20 is the right candidate. All these formats are a real nightmare !!
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