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Hi,

I'm pretty new to the camcorder market. I recently picked up a Sharp Aquos HDTV and LOVE it. I'd like to use it to display the home movies I record on a yet-to-be-purchased camcorder.

For the harddrive camcorders --- which ones will PLAYBACK at a decent display like 720p or 1080i? And more importantly --- when I need to archive the content to a DVD burner because the hard drive is getting full, now I'm down to a 480i content, right? How does one ever replay archived content back at a HD display like 720p or 1080i? Do the camcorders support the ability to "retransfer" the content from a computer BACK to the camcorder, so the camcorder can display at the better resolution? Or are there any DVD players out there with HDMI cables that will simply take the mpeg file and display it to the TV @ 720p/1080i?

Confused re: how all this works.

Thanks for any help you can give me,

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there are two kinds of HD media used in consumer grade HD cams-- HDV (mini DV tape based) and AVCHD (hard drive based).

For HDV the options of playback are no different from SD mini DV. You can playback from the camcorder or put the video on DVD in Bluray or HDDVD format and playback with a BD or HDDVD player. So far the BD route still has issues, but HD-DVD is pretty mature.

For AVCHD besides the camcorder playback the only other one I am aware of is thru Sony PS3. Basically you put the raw video file (.m2t) out of the cam on a DVD and stick it in a PS3, it will play in its original HD glory. In fact PS3 is probably the most versital HD playback device--simply putting any raw video files (HDV or AVCHD) on a DVD disk and it will play them as long as you don't care about the chapters, menus and 5.1 surround sound.
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Thanks for the info.

Regarding the tapes (HDV) vs hard drive (AVCHD), let's say I run out of room on the camera, so I take it off the hard drive (and archive on computer). Can it be placed 'back' on the hard drive FROM the computer at a later date? If so, that sounds pretty cool --- I assume since it's on a hard drive, there is a menu on the camcorder and I can instantly play whatever is on the hard drive. Conversely, I'm assuming that the tape-based solution(s) don't have a menu for playback, and I have to physically rewind or fast-forward the tape until I get to where I want..... is that correct, or am I giving the hard-drive (AVCHD) solution more credit than it deserves?

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As I said in the previous post for HDV the prefered playback method is thru a DVD disk. It has chapters, menus and music etc, just like a commercial disk. I don't have to explain how you can randomly access content on a DVD. Since HDV is about 13GB/hour, you can figure out how much time each kind of DVD media will store. (4.7GB SL DVD, 8.5GB DL DVD, 15GB SL DVD, 25GB SL BD .....)
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Thanks for the info.

Regarding the tapes (HDV) vs hard drive (AVCHD), let's say I run out of room on the camera, so I take it off the hard drive (and archive on computer). Can it be placed 'back' on the hard drive FROM the computer at a later date? If so, that sounds pretty cool --- I assume since it's on a hard drive, there is a menu on the camcorder and I can instantly play whatever is on the hard drive.

In the case of the HDR-SR1 this is correct. I believe you need both the actual video file and a reference file that goes with it in order for the video to show up properly on the camera, but all the files can be moved back and forth.

And yes, you can browse videos on the camera and play them back instantly.
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Cool, thanks. And from what I've read, I could also take the files and burn them to a standard-def DVD, put that DVD in a PS3, and the PS3 would play back in high def? That's awesome.

I looked at the SR1 and love it, but hate the $500 premium over it's tape-based peers. Let's say I had a tape-based unit, and used it's utilities to bring the video over to my PC, which would be saved in some kind of format (but obviously not the same native format as the SR1). Are there any utilities that will convert the tape-originated-video now on my PC, over to the format used by the SR1, so I could copy to a DVD to put in a PS3? I'd like that instead of having to pop the tape back into the unit to playback.

Thanks again for your help, guys!
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From what I understand, M2T files (mpeg based HDV in its native form on tape) will playback directly in the PS3 as well.
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