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Hi.

Hopefully this is the right forum to post this in.

I am looking for a good home theater installer in the Los Angeles area. When I have looked at the CEDIA sites and talked to a few of those installers they all require me to not only use their brands (one hates Denon stuff, another insists on using Universal Remotes, etc.) but they also require I buy all my gear from them -- and their prices are not competitive....

I like doing research on sites like this. Deciding what gear I want, and then getting it myself. What I need is a skilled installer who will put the cables in the walls and wire the system...

Can anyone recommend a good installer in the LA/Sherman Oaks area?
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Remote Central is another place you might try. There are many from the LA area. Ignore the nonsense from the threatened installers, someone will PM you if they are interested.

Many attempt to push their brands for 2 reasons IMO.

#1. They are in business to make money so they are forced to use products that they KNOW will work the way they need to 100% of the time. They KNOW these products will work because of experience. For every AV Receiver you purchase they purchase 100+.

#2. Profit. For them to be able to offer you warranty and support on your system they need to make profit on the products today. If you eliminate the profit today by purchasing your hardware somewhere else they will not be able to afford to drive out to your home when a speaker blows or a Blu-ray player dies within a week of installation. (this happens quite frequently)

If you find someone to agree to just installing the system be aware of 2 things.

#1. They will (if they are intelligent) charge you T&M because you are asking them to install a system they did not design or provide products for. T&M usually eliminates any savings on hardware and you are left with being responsible for warranty/ repair.

#2. Save all notes and documentation because they will not answer your phone calls after your check clears. Thats because they will either go out of business because of poor decision making or they will get lucky and become very busy and not have time for the client who wont buy product thru them.

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Thanks for the reply.

Is Remote Central a forum or is it an installer?

Also, what sis T&M?

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Sorry.. its remotecentral.com. Here is a direct link to the installer forum : http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin...ustom/list.cgi

T&M is time and materials. It means that your billed for each hour and products like screws and zipties and any cables needed. On a normal project where a bid is given for labor there is a little bit of wiggle room for the installer so if he expects 4 days and it takes 5 your not charged for it and he can afford to eat the cost based on the overall project profit. In a labor only situation T&M guarantees that your being billed for exactly how long it takes. This covers them from losing money and covers you from paying more than it actually costs.

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