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post #1411 of 1424 Old 04-03-2015, 05:35 PM
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Attaching remote dimmers to LQRJ-WPM-6P?

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I'm working up a design for a house, and am planning on using LQRJ-WPM-6P modules for most if not all of the dimmable loads. As I was adding devices (Inclusive SW), I attempted to attach an RD-RD to one of the loads on an WPM. Could not figure out how to do it. Is that not possible? If I need switch locations for WPM loads I have to use a keypad of some kind? That's kinda annoying where I only need one control...
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I'm working up a design for a house, and am planning on using LQRJ-WPM-6P modules for most if not all of the dimmable loads. As I was adding devices (Inclusive SW), I attempted to attach an RD-RD to one of the loads on an WPM. Could not figure out how to do it. Is that not possible? If I need switch locations for WPM loads I have to use a keypad of some kind? That's kinda annoying where I only need one control...
Nothing? Bummer. A call to tech support is probably in order.
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Can't you just remove control from that WPM and use a dimmer instead of the RD-RD, for that particular load?
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Can't you just remove control from that WPM and use a dimmer instead of the RD-RD, for that particular load?
Sure, I could, but I have several loads like that. Mostly hallway (path) lights that I need a simple switch for at each end of the hall. And I had dimmers available in the WPMs, so I was trying to use them. The WPM is cheaper than the equivalent number of dimmers, even adding in the extra remotes.

I'm reworking the design that way now, but I'll check with tech support anyway.
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Cross-posted from forums.lutron.com:

I'm working up a design for a house, and am planning on using LQRJ-WPM-6P modules for most if not all of the dimmable loads. As I was adding devices (Inclusive SW), I attempted to attach an RD-RD to one of the loads on an WPM. Could not figure out how to do it. Is that not possible? If I need switch locations for WPM loads I have to use a keypad of some kind? That's kinda annoying where I only need one control...
The WPM can only be controlled via a keypad if you need that type of functionality over multiple loads.

Looks like you can trigger a scene with a momentary button if that gets you anywhere (see page 4, SSA connection)
http://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocum...%20-%20WPM.pdf

"Default Scene Operation
Pressing the Default Scene Button will toggle the module
between the Default Scene and OFF. An NTGRX-1S or
a momentary switch may be connected to the SSA termi-
nal on the module to perform the same function as the
Default Scene Button (See SSA Wiring Diagram). To
program the Default Scene, use the
HomeWorks
Utility"

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Thanks Paul. I also got a response from the RRA2 Level 2 training instructor, confirming that it can't be used with an RD-RD. Must be some technical limitation with the RD-RD, as it seems like an obvious usage. So I'm redoing my design to eliminate one of the WPM modules and placing 6CL units instead.
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Ceiling Fans that work well with 2ANF

Can anyone recommend a brand/model of fan that works well with the 2NF? Must be high quality, quiet, and contemporary design. Just about everything out there seems to come with it's own wireless remote and receiver built into the motor.
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A lot of them actually just have a little canopy module that the remote controls that you can just choose not to install.
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Can anyone recommend a brand/model of fan that works well with the 2NF? Must be high quality, quiet, and contemporary design. Just about everything out there seems to come with it's own wireless remote and receiver built into the motor.
I went through this hassle about a year ago, spent a couple dozen hours searching online.

Not many contemporary fans out there that fit the bill. Kichler and Quorum might be names to research, IIRC.

There are about 4-5 major fan distributors online, with decent websites, some of them let you search by 'pull chain', for control. Hansen Wholesale is one distributor, look for 'pull chain' left hand column.

http://www.hansenwholesale.com/ceili...rol=Pull+Chain

Basically, you need a fan with a pull chain, if you haven't figured that out.

My search was complicated by looking for a larger size, and offering a quality light kit (higher output). Needless to say, the one I ended up with is a disappointment. I would like to replace it. If you find something, let me know.

Edit - search of Contemporary Fans with pull chains, from Hansen

http://www.hansenwholesale.com/ceili...e=ON&showTop3=

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A lot of them actually just have a little canopy module that the remote controls that you can just choose not to install.
I've been looking at the installation manuals for the ones DW is interested in. Not many give any hope for a removable module. Many of the newer ones are DC, which pretty much rules them out totally.

If you have knowledge of specific brands with removable modules, please share.

Otherwise, it's looking like we're going to end up installing an 8S or 8ANS for simple On/Off and only use the remote for changing speeds. That's IF it actually goes back to it's last speed when power is restored.
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If you have knowledge of specific brands with removable modules, please share.
http://www.lightingdirect.com/minkaa...cluded/p293073

Remote control module was easy to remove, works great with 2ANF.
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Can anyone recommend a brand/model of fan that works well with the 2NF? Must be high quality, quiet, and contemporary design. Just about everything out there seems to come with it's own wireless remote and receiver built into the motor.
I'm using the 2NF with fans from Modern Fan Co. These are decent fans and definitely contemporary design.
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If it wasn't obvious, I have a lot of admiration and respect for the Lutron company. The Lutron company is one of the larger privately held companies, a role model in the industry, taking care of it's employees and customers alike. I never met Joel myself, but some of my co-workers have and I have met with some of his family. All of which are good down to earth people.

Lutrons founder, Joel Spira, passed away naturally the other day at the age of 88. At 88 he was still actively working in the company, most recently on their latest, home automation project. He's largely responsible for the modern light dimmer and several other control, automation and energy saving innovations.

http://www.mcall.com/news/local/sout...ry.html#page=1

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