Folks, I will call your attention to the sticky
I wrote at the top of the forum:
4. Finally, we ask DIY and industry professionals to respect each other. Attacks or insults by industry professionals towards DIY AND visa versa will not be tolerated.
I wrote that because this before I started moderating this forum too many threads were devolving into DIY versus CI (or CI versus DIY) flames. This thread is a good example. Someone has posted asking advice about a proposal. First a DIY made some comments about CI pricing and I nipped that in the bud because I knew where that would go (there are plenty of 10 page + threads with people flaming back and forth about that). Now some CI's are upset that someone is questioning a proposal. Well sorry, but an exchange of knowledge is what this forum is for.
understand why this is an emotionally charged issue for CI's. I know what it’s like to put a lot of time and effort into a proposal and then have someone use that proposal as a shopping list. I also personally find it especially offensive when consumers (in any
industry) waste professionals time getting proposals just to suck information out of them when they have no intention from the beginning of even considering buying anything from them. So yes, I understand the emotions on our side of the fence. (and I'm sure that at one time or another we've also all dealt with the resident kid/brother/worker who is assigned to "help"
But I also know that a lot of CI's seem to want people to just accept everything they say without question and get easily threatened when someone questions them.
Also, like it or not, if you give proposals out for free, then you are going to be wasting your time a fair amount of the time (win some, lose some), but no one is forcing you to do it, so it seems silly to me that so many CI's get so worked up over it. You basically have three options IMO:
1. Do a better job of qualifying leads and determining who you will give proposals to (which will at least minimize the amount of time you waste).
2. Work on a design basis (this is what my company does).
3. Give proposals out to anyone who asks for one. This seems to be the approach a lot of CI's follow and then they get angry when their time is wasted. It's like shooting a nail in your foot and then getting angry because it hurts
. Ok, I admit that's not a good analogy, but my point is that if you find yourself giving out lots of proposals that end up being a waste of time, then it may be time for you
to analyze what's happening and why and take corrective action instead of blaming it on "naughty"
Anyhow, continue to debate as you please, but please keep it civil.