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post #1 of 65 Old 03-16-2008, 08:33 PM - Thread Starter
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List of 2008 Models:

19PFL3403D/27
32PFL3403D/27
32PFL5403D/27
42PFL3403D/27
42PFL3603D/27
42PFL5603D/27
42PFL7403D/27
47PFL3603D/27
47PFL5603D/27
47PFL7403D/27
52PFL3603D/27
52PFL5603D/27
52PFL7403D/27

A New Look


While Philips has long been recognized for its sleek design, this new design collection truly stands out as something different in the marketplace. Philips conducted extensive research with consumers to find out what they really wanted. The response was that consumers feel that most televisions look the same and they miss products that are "outstanding." Consumers share a desire for products with a simpler and more approachable, softer and more sophisticated design.
"The introduction of our premier FlatTV line will strengthen our offerings in the fast-growing, large-screen HDTV market," said Stewart Muller, president of Philips Consumer Electronics, North America. "Starting from the first glance, these sets will stand apart from everything on the market due to their striking design and uniquely curved bezel. Consumers can look forward to an unparalleled viewing experience thanks to the unique combination of exceptional picture quality and design at an attractive price level."

The new design collection delivers on that need with a design that is minimalist, emotional, and recognizable and led by the 7000 series. Consumers will also notice the absence of a speaker grill, which makes the sleek, black bezel continuous around the set for a more minimalist look. The sound is actually powered from the back and carried out throughout the acrylic flare around the set - enveloping consumers in deep, rich sound. The end result is a TV that actually is part of your environment - superior performance packed in a design that is truly like no other.

Deeper Blacks, Sharper Movements
The addition of 120Hz ClearLCD™ technology improves the shadow detail and black levels in dark scenes while greatly diminishing motion artifacts. Philips' 120Hz ClearLCD technology provides razor-sharp moving images with an ultra-fast motion response time of two milliseconds. By doubling the picture refresh rate from the standard 60Hz, these sets deliver swift, streak-free action - elevating image quality and clarity.

Smoother Images
Philips has further refined the LCD with HD Digital Natural Motion™ technology (HD DNM), which eliminates the persistent juddering effects that appear with recorded movie content. Motion Estimation Motion Compensation (MEMC) technology estimates motion in the picture and inserts compensated frames, resulting in a smoother, more natural picture and eye-popping sharpness. By smoothing the shaky visuals typically appearing in film content, this technology creates an unrivaled experience.

More Immersive
Combined with amazing picture performance, Philips' latest generation of LED Ambilight™ technology immerses and engages viewers like no other display. The advanced lighting feature - available on the 7603 series - captures the colors and action on the screen and provides well-balanced light behind the TV set. This leads to more relaxed viewing and eliminates the need for additional ambient lighting while watching television.

Incredible Sound
The new 7000 series features a unique invisible speaker system that delivers a powerful audio experience from a slim TV cabinet. Philips' Invisible Sound System™ integrates a wOOx™ subwoofer - available on the 7603 series - with two dual-excursion passive radiator drivers to improve low frequency performance while concealing the speakers in a subtle, efficient design.

Clearer Choices
Calibrating picture settings is a breeze with Philips' simple, unique settings assistant feature. In a few easy steps, users can select their on-screen preferences with the left and right cursor buttons. By using a program similar to an eye test, viewers can select what they perceive as the best picture and sound. Choose initial preferences from the five split-screen samples and the television will make the changes and store them for future use.

Greater Connection
Forget compromised picture and sound quality caused by digital-to-analog conversions. The 7000 series offers four HDMI 1.3a inputs with built-in consumer electronics control (CEC) for the cleanest, clearest digital signal. Now users can hook-up as many as four HDMI devices while assured their sets are future-proof for further connectivity.

HD
Recent research by the CEA estimates that approximately 30 percent of households have a TV set capable of displaying images at an HD resolution. The study also suggests that first-time purchasers will lead the charge in buying millions of HDTVs in the coming months. Philips meets this high demand for digital content with televisions designed completely with the end user in mind - simplicity, sophistication and style in a bold, future-proof package.
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Anyone?
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They are not out yet...
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Oh well at least someone got a thread started. I'm looking forward to the 2ms sets. These could be great for gaming.

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Yes they are...the Philips 47PFL5603D/27 is released...

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Any owners or news to add...

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Yes they are...the Philips 47PFL5603D/27 is released...

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Have you actually seen one in a store?
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Have you actually seen one in a store?

You can get one from the Best Buy Warehouse. They should be in most stores by the end of March early April.

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Have you actually seen one in a store?

I haven't seen them yet, but they are available...

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Hi - has anyone seen any of the new Philips 2ms response TVs anywhere? Dying to get my hands on a 52PFL7403. Can't seem to find anywhere to buy one.
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Circuit City has the 18 months no payments and no interest deal going right now. I sure hope this tv shows up before the offer ends. Does anyone own this set yet? Also what's up with Amazon selling it for over $200 more than brightandsleek.com
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With Philips disconinuing U.S./North American sales, I wonder what this means going forward. Yeah, the name will exist for a few more years -- but you have to wonder about the features and technology.

Ironically, just as their sets were getting rave reviews and the technological features appealing to pros and average consumers alike, they sever the cord. Figures.
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With Philips disconinuing U.S./North American sales, I wonder what this means going forward. Yeah, the name will exist for a few more years -- but you have to wonder about the features and technology.

Ironically, just as their sets were getting rave reviews and the technological features appealing to pros and average consumers alike, they sever the cord. Figures.

It doesn't matter, Funai will continue to manage their NA operations.


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Hi - has anyone seen any of the new Philips 2ms response TVs anywhere? Dying to get my hands on a 52PFL7403. Can't seem to find anywhere to buy one.

Same here but the 52" isn't suppose to drop until May. The 47" said April and it's still not for sale anywhere, heck you can't even find a 42" other then a back room of Aaron's.

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Have you actually seen one in a store?

My local Costco had the 42TA648BX (5000 series less Pixel Plus 3 HD) last week-end. They were sold out tonight. The new cabinet looks very stylish.

The 47PFL5603D is in stock at Amazon.
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the 7400 series are in stock at blightandsleek.com (including the 52")
has anyone dealt with these guys before? they seem to have the best prices right now.
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i'd love to get the 52pfl7603D with the ambilight. can you say pimp?!
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Well did some research and ordered the phillips 42in a week ago before I joined the forum. Got it for $1299 on sale w/ the military exchange (store). I think im making a good, if not great decision...as I see a lot of anticipation for the philips line.

My first HDTV, and can't wait. Hopefully my set will arrive before GTAIV on PS3!
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Where in the manual can you fine that these TV's have 120hz? I am looking at 42ta648bx/27 and 42TA648BX/37

I am stuck between the two and not sure which one to get.
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Im on the same boat, cant find these sets anywhere. Only place was Sams club with the 42in 7400. I want either a 47in or 52in 7600 with ambilight.


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Where in the manual can you fine that these TV's have 120hz? I am looking at 42ta648bx/27 and 42TA648BX/37

I am stuck between the two and not sure which one to get.

The TA648BX is not 120Hz. Only the 7403 and 7603 are 120Hz.
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The TA648BX is not 120Hz. Only the 7403 and 7603 are 120Hz.

Thanks drivendriver, I got confused for the local Target had the 42pfl3603d/27 as 120hz.


If anyone could answer this I would appreciate it; Which one out of the two would you chose since both are very similar but the 42ta648bx/37 has a light sensor and two extra spkeakers. While 42pfl3603d/27 has Pixel Plus HD. Neither has both and stuck on which one.

Any advice would be great.

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Higuchem, the 42PFL7403 model selling at Sam's Club has everything you've been asking about for under $1,200: 120hz, PixelPlus HD, Light sensor, & 4 speakers at 30 Watts. Are the ones you're looking at selling for much less?
http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/nav...519&pCatg=5883

I bought one this weekend, but have been unhappy with the jerkiness of the set, more so in SD & regular DVD than HD, compared to my older Philips LCD -- Hopefully it's fixable with adjustments or firmware updates.

Also, there's another discussion board on this site with a lot more info on this upper model:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...981647&page=19
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Higuchem, the 42PFL7403 model selling at Sam's Club has everything you've been asking about for under $1,200: 120hz, PixelPlus HD, Light sensor, & 4 speakers at 30 Watts. Are the ones you're looking at selling for much less?
http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/nav...519&pCatg=5883

I bought one this weekend, but have been unhappy with the jerkiness of the set, more so in SD & regular DVD than HD, compared to my older Philips LCD -- Hopefully it's fixable with adjustments or firmware updates.

Also, there's another discussion board on this site with a lot more info on this upper model:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...981647&page=19

We probably should be posting more in here since this is the owners thread.

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Thanks Bradleyt for the info I was not able to fine the TV for cheaper anywhere else then Sam's Club where I got mine at. Also thanks for the link to the other threads.

Sad to say my 42PFL7403D/27 will have to stay in the box until I move to my new home before I get to try it out and give my opinion in June.
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Has anyone gotten any gotten any experience with the 3603 model yet. I saw this at my Target and I'm leaning towards getting this one as it's in the price range that I want to spend. I'm not too worried about the SD channels as I very rarely get to watch TV anymore. I wanted to know if anyone has seen their Xbox360 or PS3 on this TV and how they look along with Blu-Rays. Thanks.
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Has anyone gotten any gotten any experience with the 3603 model yet. I saw this at my Target and I'm leaning towards getting this one as it's in the price range that I want to spend. I'm not too worried about the SD channels as I very rarely get to watch TV anymore. I wanted to know if anyone has seen their Xbox360 or PS3 on this TV and how they look along with Blu-Rays. Thanks.

I own the Philips 42PFL3603D/27

Our needs seem to be very similar in this situation. All I was / am really concerned about is the picture quality of ps3, blue-ray, and HD stations. I do not watch much television and when I do it is generally only HD.

I also saw this television at Target and after reading some reviews decided with both my limited budget and demands, it would be a great fit.

So far it has been great. Blue-ray looks very very good and PS3 looks equally as good. HD stations look crisp and clear. So far I have no complaints with its ability to display high definition content.

The setup is a bit tricky and it takes some time to get things just right. In my case it was about a day. Some of the features that they offer seem to negatively effect the picture quality, such as the dynamic contrast enhancement. They do however give you the ability to disable these features giving you greater control over picture quality.

The sound is so so. Their "incredible sound" technology is far from incredible, but gets the job done. I have only used the speakers on this set for about an hour while i was hooking up my surround, but from what I heard it was nothing amazing, but was not lacking. In short the sound is average, about what I would expect (thats not too much help I know, but given the cost I assumed before I purchased that it wouldnt knock my socks off.)

420p, 720p, and 1080i content looks ok. The quality of the source matters obviously and there was a noticeable difference in picture quality when switching between sources (in this case an insignia 1080i up-converting dvd player and the the oppo DV-981HD in the other room.) I tried them on all settings lowest to highest and obviously the oppo outpreformed. However the picture quality was still shy of what i would call great. Still grainy, very grainy during dark scenes. If you are going to up-convert I would suggest using a quality player (obviously) for the best picture quality.

Overall, for the money, I have not viewed a better performing TV in theis price range, 1000-1250(again, personal opinion). I am no a/v expert, but I did my fair share of research and compared many different TV's. For the money, this was the best possible picture I could find. A very good friend owns the Toshiba 42RV530U and this was one of the LCD's i compared it with. To me, the Philips outperformed. Again, this is my personal opinion and I do not know much by way of LCD's, I do however know what I like when it comes to picture quality. I would not rule this one out by any means.

Hope this helps even a little bit. I should note that this is being used as a second (primarily gaming and blue-ray) LCD. It is in a fairly small room ad I sit roughly 8 feet away.
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Thanks for the response lemons. I was planning on getting my new TV sometime this month. I checked with my local Target to see if I could bring my PS3 up there and check how it looks on their display model and they said it was ok. It's pretty funny that your friend has the Toshiba 42RV530 because I was also looking at that TV as well. But it's good to hear from someone with experience with both of the TVs.

I currently have a Philips CRT that is working fine, but not having 720p is really annoying now and I want to see Blu-Rays the way their supposed to be seen. Like you I have a surround sound system so the speaker output on the TV are a non factor for me. Once again, thanks for your input Lemons. It's much appreciated.
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Here is a pic of it in the room so you have an idea of how far away I am when viewing.
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Just bought one at Costco... $1199 Beautiful picture and very thin set!
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