Originally Posted by Gunstar77
Here is my impressions of the W4100 from another thread I posted in:
Well, I can give you my opinion because I bought the LN52A650 and the KDL-52W4100. About a month ago I started comparing the 2 sets several times and end up getting the 650 about 2 weeks ago. Now this TV will be for about 75% gaming and 25% TV & movie viewing. Then comparing the 2 sets in the store I just fell in love with the 650 not that the W4100 looked bad or anything, I just loved the glossy back screen and red trim. 650 had blacks that were CRT level and the price was better then the W4100. So after getting the 650 home I was loving it even more, the picture quality was off the charts compared to my 2+ years old 42" RPTV A10, even SD content was solid. So about 3 hours after watching TV and messing with the settings I decided to play some Gears of War on it, this were things went down hill. Let me get something out of the way right now, I have been playing Gears of War for a year and half now with the same people generally, about 3 to 4 times a week. As soon as started playing I instantly started missing Active Reloads like crazy and getting destroyed in Shotgun battles, which I believe is result of Input Lag. So I began looking for a Game Mode setting which I did find and turned on. I was a little upset with the fact that you can not adjust the picture in Game Mode but I figured if gets rid of the Input Lag I can deal with it. Game Mode helped slightly but I was still missing my Active Reloads pretty frequently and I felt like a was slightly behind the action still. So for 2 days I debated what to with 650, I decided that it cost too much to not enjoy gaming on it when that is what I mainly bought it for. So, after that I was extremely down on LCD sets, so I start to look into Plasma sets but with IR and the dull look that Plasmas tend to have turned me off. I decide to go back to the waiting game and just playing on my A10 but then the Cnet review of the W4100 hit. Granted the Cnet review was not glowing but there was enough there to warrant a purchase. I picked up the W4100 2 days ago and this TV is here to stay. I got it home and hooked it up in 5 minutes. I started to mess around with the menu and my wife made comment that the 650 looked way better, which I said "hold on let me go threw the settings" and of course Sony default is Vivid, as soon as I set it to Standard she said nevermind.
I messed with menu and TV viewing for about 10 minutes and then I decided to cut right to the chase. I turned on the 360 and set the Input to Game Mode and started play Fuel Depot in Gears of War and with in the first 5 minutes I knew I have found my new TV. This TV was as responsive as my A10 and on top of everything else you can adjust the picture in Game Mode unlike the 650. Here is the breakdown between the 2 sets for me:
HD Picture Quality: Pretty even on this front but 1080p content looks better on the W4100 for some reason, where the 650 doesn't look that much different viewing 720p or 1080p, might be to the glossy screen.
SD Picture Quality: I would give this to the 650, it just plain looks better then the W4100. I was able to get the SD content looking a little better on the W4100 after a little work.
Black Level: I would give the edge to the W4100 here, the 650 has CRT level blacks but the W4100 blacks are just as dark but have more detail. (Example: On Fuel Depot when you start the round in the hanger, over in the corners where the vehicles are you could really see the difference of the two sets, the 650 was completely black but W4100 had nice blacks and details from the other colors as well.
Gaming Mode: There is no reason to even go into this, the W4100 by a mile.
Also, the PS3 looked alot better on the W4100 for some reason, it is hooked up in the HDMI port.
TV Speakers: The W4100 sounds alot better then 650, the Sony had better highs and lows and was just plain better.
Design: I do like the 650 design a little more just for the fact the stand swivels and design is refreshing where as the W4100 is pretty standard stuff.
Remote & Menu: I preferred the W4100 because of the PS3 menu set up plus I hated that wheel on the 650 remote.
In closing both TV are nice sets but if you are a gamer that likes going online you might want to stay away from the 650. Here is few pics as well.