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Ok, after the AVS crash the new Sharp-LED-Thread...

The Sharp will presented at the IFA 08 in Berlin. Sharp IFA press conference is on 28.08.08;

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http://www.heimkinomarkt.de/News_Ein...p?news_ID=5792

The basis is the IFA 07 prototype;

http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/s...-inches-thick/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/31/h...cd-prototypes/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkDTY..._video_of.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfn0cClGVos&NR=1

Coming soon 2008 and not 2010!

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...080111/145233/

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"20mm, 1/2 Power Use, 100,000:1 Contrast Ratio LCD TV Will Debut in 2008," Sharp Says

(in German)
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=E8RTP9k7Dv0
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Finally Sharp comes LED

I think next year LED LCD TV will become popular, since Plasma will launch double brightness/half power consumption model in 2009.
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Today is the Sharp IFA press conference!
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SHARP IS BACK;

www.xs-aquos.com/en/?bandwidth=low&volume=1

http://www.hifi-forum.de/index.php?a...6&postID=53#53

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Thus here times the information to the new Sharp series. Here the press text: Berlin, IFA 2008. Sharp Electronics places the AQUOS LCD TVs of the new generation with 52 - and to 65-Zoll-Bildschirmdiagonale pre the series of AQUOS XS1. Completely newly developed LCD panels provide for high image quality, a good energy balance and ultraflaches Design. The innovative devices also again developed RGB LED Backlightsystem offer a contrast relationship of over 1.000.000: 1. An unequalled Schwarzwert and a brilliant color representation (EBU1 166%, NTSC2 150%) are the result. The result: Full Schwarzwerte and reality-faithful colors. Sharp equipped its LCD TVs of the series of XS1 in addition with pollution free and energy-saving technology. By the optical brightness adjustment, which adapts the background lighting automatically to the environment light, the current consumption of the devices sinks. In the thinnest place the television only 1 tariff (2.3 cm) is deep. The metal verge lends a schickes, modern Design to the equipment. Owing to ultraflat dimensions the screen can be fastened easily to the wall and opens to the consumer thereby completely new design possibilities for its living room mechanism. Regarding the clay/tone quality, Sharp developed ultraflache loudspeakers, which provide in connection with the singular 1-Bit-Digitalverstärker von Sharp for natural and crystal-clear Tonwiedergabe together with the Pioneer corporation. Since introduction of the first AQUOS LCD TVs in the year 2001 constantly developed Sharp further the image quality and increased the sceen sizes. Today the Flachbild TVs of the AQUOS XS1 offers series of picture and clay/tone quality as well as Design and energy balance, which " the designation; LCD-TV of the newest Generation" really earn. With the AQUOS XS1 von Sharp the customer experiences new experiences within the range audio video. Important characteristics 1. Ultraflacher, energy-saving laid out LCD-TV with excellent image quality. • Contrast relationship of over 1.000.000: 1 for unequalled Schwarzwert • Color reproduction: EBU 166% - for high luminosity and close-to-reality colors. • High-quality low rise building construction, in the thinnest place only 2.3 cm deeply (in the thickest place 4.6 cm). 2. Flat loudspeaker, together with the Pioneer corporation develops 3. AQUOS Familink for the rapid and simple integration of AQUOS Blu ray Devices

SHARP XS1; RGB-LED-Backlight wit 1000000:1 contrast, ultraflat and 52 and 65"!
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According the the counter it's coming in four days, which would line up with the start of CEDIA.
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According the the counter it's coming in four days, which would line up with the start of CEDIA.

Yes, it´s coming this year and not 2010!
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Anyone want to take any bets as to how much a 65" RGB LED set with LocDim is going to come to?
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WOW this is great!

Any guess on MSRP? I hope the 52" will be in the $4K range.

Would like to see a shootout between the 55A950, Aquos 52XS1 and the 55XBR8
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There must be a lot of confusion over at Sharp. Per Engadget the XS1 is not LED backlit. I tend to believe that.

It is very, very hard to make a thin RGB LED backlit set with the RGB LEDs on side shining into a light guide instead of the more typical direct view backlight. I know this because myself and other colleagues tried at my last job. Thin with white LEDs is much less of a problem, and not too hard.

Further you can't do local area dimming with an edge lit LED backlight so a super thin LCD TV seems like a very unlikely candidate for RGB LED backlighting with local area dimming.
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The XS1 is a RGB-LED-LCD!

German press info;

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Völlig neu entwickelte LCD-Panels sorgen für hohe Bildqualität, eine gute Energiebilanz und ultraflaches Design. Die innovativen Geräte mit neu entwickeltem RGB-LED-Backlightsystem bieten ein Kontrastverhältnis von über 1.000.000:1. Ein bisher unerreichter Schwarzwert und eine brillante Farbdarstellung (EBU1 166%, NTSC2 150%) sind die Folge. Das Ergebnis: Satte Schwarzwerte und realitätsgetreue Farben.

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The XS1 is a RGB-LED-LCD!

You better go tell the guys at Engadget that they have it all wrong then.
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They are wrong!
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The XS1 is a RGB-LED-LCD!

Misinformation alert, again. XS1 has no LEDs, let alone RGB LEDs, no local dimming. XS1 is not the set this thread is about.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/08/28...up-and-bd-hp2/
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Thin is in at IFA 2008, and Sharp's LCD lineup leads off with the super-skinny XS1 Aquos series LCD. A 23mm thick 1080p 52- or 65-inch panel packing 10,000:1 contrast ratio

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Alma seems to be correct. Unless Sharp Germany totally screwed the pooch. Better English translation of the official Sharp.de press release.
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Engadget is wrong!

http://www.sharp.de/presse/extra/prmeldung190.html

The XS1 is not only a ordinary Slim-LCD! Words from Sharp; XS1 = "The best TV in the world"!
So it isn´t cheap. (twice/third the price of an ordinary Slim-LCD in this size).
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They are wrong!

You were claiming that Samsung 950 had 2160 individually dimmable zones because of some German press release. Now that the owners count 64 zones, are they wrong too?
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One thing that stood out to me is that there is no mention of local area dimming.
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You were claiming that Samsung 950 had 2160 individually dimmable zones because of some German press release. Now that the owners count 64 zones, are they wrong too?

Believe it or not, but this XS1 is an amazing Flat-TV and the XBR8-killer! Tomorrow i will be at the IFA and see this TV in real life!

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One thing that stood out to me is that there is no mention of local area dimming.

The XS1 has a new crystal layer technology, so that could be the reason. I saw the prototype 2007 and that´s what they told me. It isn´t an ordinary LCD-TV!
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Misinformation alert, again. XS1 has no LEDs, let alone RGB LEDs, no local dimming. XS1 is not the set this thread is about.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/08/28...up-and-bd-hp2/

That is a news service article, not a press release from the company itself. The German translations of Sharps own press release clearly state RGB-LED backlight.
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Believe it or not, but this XS1 is an amazing Flat-TV and the XBR8-killer! Tomorrow i will be at the IFA and see this TV in real life!

Be sure to let us know how the banding looks.
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That is a news service article, not a press release from the company itself. The German translations of Sharps own press release clearly state RGB-LED backlight.

They do indeed. Whether or not this info is correct is a different question. Engadget reports 10:1K CR plus this XS1 tv looks nothing like the Sharp prototype from last year.
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http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Super...meldung/115063

It is a local dimming RGB LED-LCD and for a premium price!

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plus this XS1 tv looks nothing like the Sharp prototype from last year.

2007 it was a prototype display only for the show to test reactions! The XS1 is the finished product and a TV!
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Well, the video looks like more smoke and mirrors from Sharp.

They have a long way to go to regain any credibility, after all the garbage they have been putting out and putting over on people worldwide.
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hot dang. this sharp looks er....sharp? if the off angle viewing is as good as it looks in the pic then they've got a good one. wonder how much it'll cost for the 52" and how it'll stack up against the xbr8 and the XV1-the world's slimmest LCD with LED BL.
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hot dang. this sharp looks er....sharp? if the off angle viewing is as good as it looks in the pic then they've got a good one. wonder how much it'll cost for the 52" and how it'll stack up against the xbr8 and the XV1-the world's slimmest LCD with LED BL.


What is the XV1?
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a new 9.9 mm thin LCD from sony with LED BL(probably edge illuminated)
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Good for Sharp for trying to do something new finally. Hopefully it comes in black too and not just silver.
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