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This Thread is designed to cater to owners who don't mind being harassed by other members that they haven't posted Video, Images, and other information quickly enough to satisfy those that don't have the bottle to buy the TV They want info on. Too bad it's not yet in the shops, but it will be before long.

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I will second post here. Have had my 46a950 for about a week and have been lovin every minute of it. It is extremely sharp and bright (which I love).

Three pics. Disregard the bright spots or blue spots in each picture, that is the camera flash. You have to see the tv in person, it is so clear.

Third pic especially shows how black the tv gets when watching a widescreen movie.
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I will second post her. Have had my 46a950 for about a week and have been lovin every minute of it. It is extremely sharp and bright (which I love).

Three pics. Disregard the bright spots or blue spots in each picture, that is the camera flash. You have to see the tv in person, it is so clear.

Third pic especially shows how black the tv gets when watching a widescreen movie.

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Try to Turn off the flash and place on the top of something and set the timer so you are not holding the Camera, or shoot off angle so the flash doesn't reflect
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Or just place a piece of tape (or a sticky note) over the flash.

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MORE PICS!!!

I also want to see viewing angle pics! thanks
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I will second post her. Have had my 46a950 for about a week and have been lovin every minute of it. It is extremely sharp and bright (which I love).

Three pics. Disregard the bright spots or blue spots in each picture, that is the camera flash. You have to see the tv in person, it is so clear.

Third pic especially shows how black the tv gets when watching a widescreen movie.

Have you been able to compare black levels to a previous series? 8,7, or 6?

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will take some side pics and post a little later
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slumpey, could you take some pics similar to these and also some off angle pics with lights off and no camera flash using the custom picture settings I posted earlier? thanks




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I will second post here. Have had my 46a950 for about a week and have been lovin every minute of it. It is extremely sharp and bright (which I love).

Three pics. Disregard the bright spots or blue spots in each picture, that is the camera flash. You have to see the tv in person, it is so clear.

Third pic especially shows how black the tv gets when watching a widescreen movie.

Wow, those pics are beautiful. The black levels are very impressive. I'm torn. Do I want a Kuro or do I want the 950? Or do I wait (seems like forever) for the XBR8 for a comparison?

I currently have the 750 40" and I can confidently say the black levels are noticably better in the 950.
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Slumpey, if you're able, we need to see some dark room pics and like dave said, some off-angle viewing pics. Maybe a shot of the end of movie credits in a dark room to test how truly black the 950 is.

Great job slumpey. I need to see more please
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I have cars on blu ray so will test that later
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Slumpey your a good person thanks for taking pictures, I love the first one flushed away since it shows this tv produces amazing colors and color more than anything excites me about my new tv, I'll be getting the 46 incher in a couple months when I move and I'm very very excited.
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side pics. trying to take pics the best I can, in my opinion picture looks good from this wide of an angle.
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I will second post here. Have had my 46a950 for about a week and have been lovin every minute of it. It is extremely sharp and bright (which I love).

Three pics. Disregard the bright spots or blue spots in each picture, that is the camera flash. You have to see the tv in person, it is so clear.

Third pic especially shows how black the tv gets when watching a widescreen movie.

Wow, looks great.

52" Samsung 750, finally satisfaction
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I finally took some more pics for the enjoyment of some and criticism of many.

I used the cnet settings that were posted in one of the four different threads dedicated to these televisions. I also took the pics in two different angles as you can see by the file descriptions. The last pic is with the cnet settings but I turned led motion plus on.
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I finally took some more pics for the enjoyment of some and criticism of many.

I used the cnet settings that were posted in one of the four different threads dedicated to these televisions. I also took the pics in two different angles as you can see by the file descriptions. The last pic is with the cnet settings but I turned led motion plus on.

Great pics. Like I said in one of my posts from today on a NON official (wink*) 950 thread, the colors and black levels are fierce when viewed either dead on or a little off axis. However, there is a lot of blooming when viewed moderate to way off axis. Color didn't wash out as bad as I was expecting however.

AND, this set is SO BRIGHT and sharp, omg. amazing.
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I used the DVE disc to adjust my settings. I wasn't to happy with the look the cnet settings were giving the set. I would like to see what everyone else is using. FYI these are the settings I'm using while watching a blu-ray.

Here are my settings as of now.

Movie
Backlight 5
Contrast 80
Brightness 42
Sharpness 40
Color 48
Tint G50/R50
Black Adj Off
Dyn. Cont Off
Gamma 0
Color Space I just changed the green to 54
White Bal No change
Flesh Tone 0
Edge Enh Off
xyVCC On
LED Motion Off
Color Tone Warm2
Size 16:9
Dig. NR Off
Blue Off
AMP Off
Smart Led On


Lets start getting these sets adjusted!
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awesome pics spenbrad. thank you so much for taking the time to do this and putting in the effort with the settings and different angles. really appreciated it.

btw those two other cars pic were taken from the Pioneer Kuro Elite and a Panny Z850. no doubt the the 950 looks just as great(although not as sharp looking as the Kuro pic) straight on at 90degrees, but in that 50degrees pic, the blooming is clearly visible and pretty large I gotta say. I don't always sit directly in front of the tv at center so that could be a big problem. I really dig the deep blacks but I don't know if I could live with the blooming. oh well...

again, thanks for the awesome pics. great job.
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Thanks guys. I think I've almost made up my mind. Looking at diabolyte Kuro picture and comparing it to the 950, the clear winner in my mind is the Kuro. Look how detailed and sharp that Kuro is compared to the smudgy Panny and the 950.

The 950 comes close when looking straight on, but the off-axis blooming problem and the blueish black horizon is just unacceptable in my mind.

Is it worth an $1800 premium for a Kuro Elite over the 950? That is the question I have to answer for myself. Or maybe wait until the XBR8s are out.
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I used the DVE disc to adjust my settings. I wasn't to happy with the look the cnet settings were giving the set. I would like to see what everyone else is using. FYI these are the settings I'm using while watching a blu-ray.

Here are my settings as of now.

Movie
Backlight 5
Contrast 80
Brightness 42
Sharpness 40
Color 48
Tint G50/R50
Black Adj Off
Dyn. Cont Off
Gamma 0
Color Space I just changed the green to 54
White Bal No change
Flesh Tone 0
Edge Enh Off
xyVCC On
LED Motion Off
Color Tone Warm2
Size 16:9
Dig. NR Off
Blue Off
AMP Off
Smart Led On


Lets start getting these sets adjusted!


Spenbrad, could you take a picture off-axis with the Smart LED off as a comparison with Smart LED on?

Someone had mentioned on another thread that the off-axis blooming problem goes away when you turn off the Smart LED backlighting.
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fwiw I found a pic of the 750 of the same cars scene courtesy of pcmike

750


950



overexposed to show the black details:

750



950


Kuro&Panny

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Can someone test the Game mode on these TVs and tell us if the image adjustments are available and what the input lag is?
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fwiw I found a pic of the 750 of the same cars scene courtesy of pcmike

750
http://doorstop.org/carsblimp.jpg

950
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...3&d=1219981915


overexposed to show the black details:

750
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...1&d=1219995219


950
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...1&d=1219995219

Kuro&Panny
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...1&d=1219994878


Nice, shows how better the blacks are over the A750.
It's kinda hard to compare with the plasma shots since they look like they were taken at lower resolution or resized & caused those artifacts.
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Can someone test the Game mode on these TVs and tell us if the image adjustments are available and what the input lag is?

What he said, anyone ?
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(Moved this post and next post from other thread...it is getting confusing now)

More pics:



Is this banding or normal? Doesn't look bad to me...but I'm not sure:


This is where Plasma and LCD are very different (skin tones and detail in texture):


No comments on players 'backs' to me...but the grass looked pretty good here, yes?:


Anyone recommend best camera settings for doing this?
I am not happy with quality of pics, but wanted to get something posted.
I think a dark room is good, but maybe I go with using better camera? Maybe tripod?
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OK, after over 100 pics shot last night...I can say the camera I was using does NOT do justice to pictures. I might have to break out my camera, but trying to use the PS3 Remote and holding a Canon XTi is going to be fun

So, I have a few, but I'm not going to lie...the camera lacks detail and adds a moire pattern in some. But hey, gotta start somewhere.

Here is first image:
ImageShack is messed up and lost this picture. I will post directly...


This was shot with HP 840 with flash off. Hard to tell where black bars are and TV (or wall)...
Detail on this shot is fantastic. Shows blacks like no other TV (again, as pmp mentions...camera and file size doesn't do justice). Bessie's detail is amazing, and I think I was standing under two feet away. One other good thing...you don't see any banding on smoke in this - well in real life you don't
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What he said, anyone ?

Game mode limits most adjustments.
I can try tonight for lag.
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Here is a picture of Red...some nice colors and blacks. The picture doesn't do justive on this one. Lizzie looks amazing with detail and blacks but in picture, she is a little washed out... not much though.

(Yes, I know almost every character's name in the movie...you watch it enough with kids...it gets stuck in your brain) LOL
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I think your pics look great, have you tried these settings yet:


Movie
Backlight 5
Contrast 80
Brightness 42
Sharpness 40
Color 48
Tint G50/R50
Black Adj Off
Dyn. Cont Off
Gamma 0
Color Space I just changed the green to 54
White Bal No change
Flesh Tone 0
Edge Enh Off
xyVCC On
LED Motion Off
Color Tone Warm2
Size 16:9
Dig. NR Off
Blue Off
AMP Off
Smart Led On
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