Originally Posted by simplemath
Lately it seems there is an average of one or two new kuro elite owner per day on the avs. So people want to buy, just not pay 7k for the Sony. Sony has inadvertantly increased Pioneers kuro sales by forcing locked on XBR8 owners to shop, and once they see the elite in the right environment it is game over. I bet in americas kuro is outselling xbr8 10 to 1. This was not the case until it became ovious that the sony was going to be 2k overpriced.
It may well be. It's a shame that Pioneer really hasn't gotten the sales their screens have deserved until the very year they axed much of their plasma division.
Still, as I said, Sony is a global company and the success of the XBR8 doesn't rise or fall on how well it sells in America alone. Certainly, the US is a big slice of the pie, but if sales in Japan, Germany, Australia, etc are solid then that can be compensated for. And while I do think the XBR8 is too a point overly expensive, I think much of the criticism here and from American consumers is the proverbial baby with the bathwater, as it is SURE that is the problem, not so much Sony's lineup.
Based on what I know of the XBR8's margins here, my extrapolation would be that a skilled haggler over there could get the price down to about US$4.4k if one wanted to play hardball. Agreed, that's hardly cheap
, but it certainly worthy of realistic consideration against comparably priced Kuros.
Originally Posted by zoro
amen! I am sitting on the fence too! People want bigger flat screens and cheaper too! Btw did any one see VIZIO 55 inch 120HZ under 3K yet?
If you're a good negotiator then you can get a 65" Sharp for close to that, although it may well be that the Visio looks better.