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[color="DarkRed"][b] Have you seen the 552xvt?
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You may want to check that the USB drive is formatted FAT32, rather than NTFS. This sometimes makes a difference as many such equipped devices only read FAT32. The Vizio web site states that they have function, but I guess that I can't argue with the shipped manual.
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1. You can disable these little logos from lighting up. In the "Help" menu on the TV settings, Turn "Tech Logo" to OFF.

Thanks- that looks much better!
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This set have DLNA capability ? I don't care if it can read USB if it can read from my DLNA NAS.
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Is is possible to directly access video files stored on my NAS without having to use a device like an AppleTV or Popcorn Hour, etc?
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All, I'm looking at purchasing the VIZIO 47 TruLED HDTV SV471XVT 240Hz. Can anyone tell me if:

VIZIO is a good Brand vs SONY and SAMSUNG?
How the VZIO will hold up?
Have Vizio's quality issues been resolved?

Thanks,

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All, I'm looking at purchasing the VIZIO 47 TruLED HDTV SV471XVT 240Hz. Can anyone tell me if:

VIZIO is a good Brand vs SONY and SAMSUNG?
How the VZIO will hold up?
Have Vizio's quality issues been resolved?

Thanks,

FC

Do a search in this thread for "quality" or "consumer reports". That will give you a good idea of the pro's and cons...good luck
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Can someone tell me what *Real Cinema Mode* does in the 472/422XVT (or 551/552XVT)menu? The earlier models didn't have this mode, but the CNET reviewer couldn't discern any effect from it. I wonder if *Real Cinema* has something to do with reducing the soap opera effect. (If so, this will influence my purchase.)

The instruction manual says: "The Real Cinema Mode option allows selection of the type of compensation used for the Smooth MotionTM Effect option. Choose from Off, Precision and Smooth. (Smooth Motion has Off, Low, Medium, and High.) Vizio refers to Smooth Motion as an anti-judder control, but wouldn't it also involve anti-blur?

I'd greatly appreciate hearing from someone who can untangle this jungle of adjustments.
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Do a search in this thread for "quality" or "consumer reports". That will give you a good idea of the pro's and cons...good luck

Several years ago while contemplating the Vizio 52GLF I used the BBB and found that Vizio had a very good rating. A- on a 13 point scale, third from top
Vizio's response to customer complaints rated a good score.
Accidentally discovered that Toshiba laptops had the absolute lowest rating at F

http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Report/Vizio-13209958

Try the BBB, look at the rating explanation.

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I received my 552 today...

I was playing with the adjustments and decided to go ahead and use cnet's picture settings that they came out with for the 551 and so far they really look good. Here's a link: http://forums.cnet.com/5208-19410_10...;posts#3155836

Gotta go back and play,
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I received my 552 last Tuesday. Has anyone else tried the cnet 551 settings on their 552? On my set those settings produce a picture that is terrible - very washed out and unwatchable. This leads me to wonder if the set I received is way off in its factory calibration.

The reason I ask is that so far I have not been able to find a combination of settings that produce consistent flesh tones. Sometimes the flesh tones are OK. At other times they look pale or chalky and off hue while the rest of the picture is well saturated and correctly tinted.

I have spent a lot of time trying different combinations and have found Picture - Movie, Color Temp -Custom to be the best at flesh tones (although this combination produces an overall picture that is a bit warm on my set). Is anyone else having trouble finding good flesh tone settings on their 552?

Another seemly unusual behavior with my set is that the Backlight adjustment seems to have no affect at all if Smart Dimming is on - no discernable change in the picture across its full range. With Smart Dimming off the adjustment works as you would expect. Is this the intended behavior for the Backlight adjustment? Is this what others are seeing?
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All, I'm looking at purchasing the VIZIO 47 TruLED HDTV SV471XVT 240Hz. Can anyone tell me if:

VIZIO is a good Brand vs SONY and SAMSUNG?
How the VZIO will hold up?
Have Vizio's quality issues been resolved?

Thanks,

FC

The 471 is not a TruLED model... The 472 is.

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Can someone tell me what *Real Cinema Mode* does in the 472/422XVT (or 551/552XVT)menu? The earlier models didn't have this mode, but the CNET reviewer couldn't discern any effect from it. I wonder if *Real Cinema* has something to do with reducing the soap opera effect. (If so, this will influence my purchase.)

The instruction manual says: "The Real Cinema Mode option allows selection of the type of compensation used for the Smooth MotionTM Effect option. Choose from Off, Precision and Smooth. (Smooth Motion has Off, Low, Medium, and High.) Vizio refers to Smooth Motion as an anti-judder control, but wouldn't it also involve anti-blur?

I'd greatly appreciate hearing from someone who can untangle this jungle of adjustments.

Well, after a little homework, I've answered my own question, but ended up with another slight mystery.

(First of all, my instruction manual quote should have ended at ". . . Off, Precision, and Smooth.")

Now, according to two reviews I found, Real Cinema is designed to reduce artifacts due to Smooth Motion (mainly the halo effect). Odd that in their review of the XVT470, CNET noticed the effect of Real Cinema, but in their review of the XVT 551, they noticed no effect at all from this adjustment.

Quoting from a reveiw on the HDTV Solutions site: "If instead of the halo [artifact using Smooth Motion], you would prefer a little judder from time to time, then switch to the other Real Cinema option, Precision. With this choice, the TV performs motion interpolation to generate 60 frames from the original 24 and then simply duplicates each of the 60 to obtain 120Hz. This is supposed to alleviate the halo."

Presumably, this has nothing to do with alleviating the soap opera effect. Correct?

But here's the odd thing: The XVT471/421 manuals on the Vizio site don't show a Real Cinema setting at all---and aren't these later models than the 470/420s?

The 472/422 manuals once again have Real Cinema listed. Did Vizio eliminate Real Cinema from the 471/421 and then reinstate it? Or are the manuals incomplete? Or should I give a damn? Anyone . . . ?
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<<The 472/422 manuals once again have Real Cinema listed. Did Vizio eliminate Real Cinema from the 471/421 and then reinstate it? Or are the manuals incomplete? Or should I give a damn? Anyone . . . ?>>

The 471/421 download manuals are incomplete. Went to Costco tonight. All the 120hz Vizios, including the 471/421, have Real Cinema.

Furthermore, Vizio's website is screwed up concerning the 370XVT, which appears to be discontinued if you search by screen size. If you search by price, it's there.

Their list of forthcoming TruLED sets shows the 422XVT, whereas their website shows this model not to have LED at all.

What's with these guys?
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All, I’m looking at purchasing the VIZIO 47” TruLED HDTV SV472XVT 240Hz. Can anyone tell me if:

• VIZIO is a good Brand vs SONY and SAMSUNG?
• How the VZIO will hold up?
• Have Vizio’s quality issues been resolved?

Thanks,

FC

Nice set overall. Very cost effective. Don't forget about the LG 47LH90, there are times the LG is just about the same pice as the Vizio. Sony KDL-46XBR8 and Samsung UN46B8500 have an edge but are pricy. Pros and cons with everything. You can always slap a 4 or 5 year warranty on it and not worry about it.
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You can always slap a 4 or 5 year warranty on it and not worry about it.

Buying it from Costco and using your AMEX card will get you two extra years on top of the one year warranty for free.

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I got my 552 last Friday. However, I'd like to ask if anyone experience it. When I change channel from High Def to Standard Def, the color of the screen turns pink and there is no sound at all. Should I call Vizio? Thanks a lot.
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I received my 552 last Tuesday. Has anyone else tried the cnet 551 settings on their 552? On my set those settings produce a picture that is terrible - very washed out and unwatchable. This leads me to wonder if the set I received is way off in its factory calibration.

The reason I ask is that so far I have not been able to find a combination of settings that produce consistent flesh tones. Sometimes the flesh tones are OK. At other times they look pale or chalky and off hue while the rest of the picture is well saturated and correctly tinted.

I have spent a lot of time trying different combinations and have found Picture - Movie, Color Temp -Custom to be the best at flesh tones (although this combination produces an overall picture that is a bit warm on my set). Is anyone else having trouble finding good flesh tone settings on their 552?

Another seemly unusual behavior with my set is that the Backlight adjustment seems to have no affect at all if Smart Dimming is on - no discernable change in the picture across its full range. With Smart Dimming off the adjustment works as you would expect. Is this the intended behavior for the Backlight adjustment? Is this what others are seeing?

Are those settings better than these that I found on another thread but for another 42" TV?

Current settings
Picture Mode: Movie

Backlight: 18
Brightness: 49
Contrast: 52
Color: 42
Tint: 2
Sharpness: 3

Advanced Video
Noise Reduction: strong
Color enhancement: off
Advanced Adaptive Luma: Off
Enhanced Contrast Rato: off

Color Temperature: Normal
Red: 121
Green: 128
Blue: 118

Smooth Motion Effect: low
Real Cinema Mode: Percision
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Here are a list of all the 47" models due out eith LED and a link to all thiir line which was provided in the 72" thread...

SV472XVT - 2,000,000:1 5 ms 240hz panel, ? zones ,VIA apps included
XVT472SV - 2,000,000:1 5 ms 240hz panel, ? zones, VIA apps **NOT**included
XVT473SV -10,000,000:1 3 ms 240hz panel, 160 zones , via apps included
XVTPRO470SV- 10,000,000:1 3 ms 480hz panel, 160 zones , via apps included,3D



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http://vizioces.com/
this site shows the specs of all the 2010 Vizio sets n PDF format. Very informative.

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Are those settings better than these that I found on another thread but for another 42" TV?

Current settings
Picture Mode: Movie

Backlight: 18
Brightness: 49
Contrast: 52
Color: 42
Tint: 2
Sharpness: 3

Advanced Video
Noise Reduction: strong
Color enhancement: off
Advanced Adaptive Luma: Off
Enhanced Contrast Rato: off

Color Temperature: Normal
Red: 121
Green: 128
Blue: 118

Smooth Motion Effect: low
Real Cinema Mode: Percision

The Backlight setting has no affect at all when Smart Dimming is turned on. After many hours of trying, I have not been able to find a combination of settings that produce an acceptable picture. I really think I have a defective set. I'm not too worried about it given Vizio's good reputation. I'll be emailing their support department this morning.
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Daniellee -- give it a few days. If you track back on posts here, I, too, was very disappointed with PQ when I first got my 472. Since then -- now 7 days -- the PQ has improved.

I am still tweaking my settings. I began with the cnet calibration for the 551.

My two "gripes" thus far are:

1. I still get a flicker in the channel info box when I change channels. Doesn't affect PQ at all, but I didn't have this on my 471.

2. I'm seeing a lot of pixellation when a scene changes. Yesterday watching football, when the replay would end and go back to live broadcast, the pixellation would occur. I also get this with both HD and SD signals. I will admit to get a sharper picture, I have Sharpness at 3 or 4. A post elsewhere states this may be part of the problem. The other suggestion there is to set Cinema Mode to Precision and SME to Low. I currently have these Off. Again, I don't know whether the culprit is the signal, my settings or the TV's tuner.

It's an ongoing process...
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Daniellee -- give it a few days. If you track back on posts here, I, too, was very disappointed with PQ when I first got my 472. Since then -- now 7 days -- the PQ has improved.

I am still tweaking my settings. I began with the cnet calibration for the 551....

The cnet settings for the 551 are totally unwatchable on my 552 - very bright, almost completely washed out. That's why I becoming more and more convinced that the set will have to be repaired. I emailed Vizio support this morning. I'm confident they will work it out.
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The cnet settings for the 551 are totally unwatchable on my 552 - very bright, almost completely washed out. That's why I becoming more and more convinced that the set will have to be repaired. I emailed Vizio support this morning. I'm confident they will work it out.

Dam very bright if i remember correctly those cnet settings were to dark/dull for my taste on my 551, you my have a bum set
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The Backlight setting has no affect at all when Smart Dimming is turned on. After many hours of trying, I have not been able to find a combination of settings that produce an acceptable picture. I really think I have a defective set. I'm not too worried about it given Vizio's good reputation. I'll be emailing their support department this morning.

With Smart Dimming On, the Backlight setting will change the overall light output of the set, it will not change black level or contrast. I prefer a backlight of 55 when my room is dark on my 472. For daytime viewing, I think 70 or 75 is fine in my bright room.

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Daniellee -- give it a few days. If you track back on posts here, I, too, was very disappointed with PQ when I first got my 472. Since then -- now 7 days -- the PQ has improved.

I am still tweaking my settings. I began with the cnet calibration for the 551.

My two "gripes" thus far are:

1. I still get a flicker in the channel info box when I change channels. Doesn't affect PQ at all, but I didn't have this on my 471.

2. I'm seeing a lot of pixellation when a scene changes. Yesterday watching football, when the replay would end and go back to live broadcast, the pixellation would occur. I also get this with both HD and SD signals. I will admit to get a sharper picture, I have Sharpness at 3 or 4. A post elsewhere states this may be part of the problem. The other suggestion there is to set Cinema Mode to Precision and SME to Low. I currently have these Off. Again, I don't know whether the culprit is the signal, my settings or the TV's tuner.

It's an ongoing process...

I love new technology but @ the same time it's much harder w/10,000 settings VS. back in the day it was plug and play! LOL! But once you've mastered the new technology settings it's Platinum
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Have had the 552 for 5 hrs. It appears there is neither NAS access nor DLNA capability.

After a bit of tweaking, the set yields an excellent picture. I have 2 Samsung LED backlit TVs: LN55A950 & an LNT5281. The 552 is half the cost of both and to me provide almost identical video quality. One issue with jumping white band above the picture was resolved by increasing the "vertical size."

Good set for the price. The custmizable widgets & dual "n" band encrypted wireless work fine. Do think Vizio missed an opportunity by omitting DLNA though! Perhaps WiDi would be a work-around.
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Have had the 552 for 5 hrs. It appears there is neither NAS access nor DLNA capability.

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Do think Vizio missed an opportunity by omitting DLNA though! Perhaps WiDi would be a work-around.

Yup... I didn't get the Panasonic becasue they stripped the dlna from the US versions.

They can add network support without DLNA , the ethernet is there . They need to want to do it. Perhaps if the opportunity comes up in one of your surveys then let them know.
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I have the 552 for four days, but this unit exhibit HDMI handshake issues, meaning when you change channel on your Directv box, it will make the entire display PINK/Purple and it is not watchable until you cycle to other input source and back again. This kind of problem does not happen on 551, and other HDMI computer monitor. I am looking for answers and should I return the unit to Vizio. Thanks in advance.
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I have the 552 for four days, but this unit exhibit HDMI handshake issues, meaning when you change channel on your Directv box, it will make the entire display PINK/Purple and it is not watchable until you cycle to other input source and back again. This kind of problem does not happen on 551, and other HDMI computer monitor. I am looking for answers and should I return the unit to Vizio. Thanks in advance.

You may want to check with Vizio first. From everyone's posts it looks like the TVs in the VIP programs are not 100% complete software-wise, and from the look of the user interface it looks like they completely rewrote the codes. It also seems like it's capable of updating the codes through internet. (THink of it as windows update)

I guess that's why you get the BD player and speakers when you did the 6 week survey - you are testing bugs for them
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May I ask if any other early adopters experience similar issue, and do you know how to get back to Vizio VIP program for help in resolving software/hardware bugs?
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May I ask if any other early adopters experience similar issue, and do you know how to get back to Vizio VIP program for help in resolving software/hardware bugs?

I have a directTV box as well as the VF552XVT, and im having 0 issues with it. Ive also changed all of the output formats from the box to the television and in no circumstance was i able to get a pink/purple screen. ( native vs non native display, 4:3 vs 16:9, switching channels from SD to HD back to SD basically everything i could think of )

Are you splitting the HDMI from the DirectTV box to multiple devices ? i do know that in some cases HDMI splitters can cause HDCP/handshake issues. It may be as simple as trying another HDMI cable as well.
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