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Hi Guys,

I have looked at similiar thread but i sitll don't have any concrete answer to my question. I am currently looking to buy a 42" LCD and have my eyes on the Toshiba 42XV545U but i have seen other post that other LCD are better. so may i ask you guys a question. "if you have $1500 to spend on a 42" LCD TV which brand and what model would you get" i have also heard that glossy finish reflect alot of light and makes the TV hard to watch...isthat true? if that is true may then i would just PREFER ONLY matte screen LCD models. thanks!
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Hi Guys,

I have looked at similiar thread but i sitll don't have any concrete answer to my question. I am currently looking to buy a 42" LCD and have my eyes on the Toshiba 42XV545U but i have seen other post that other LCD are better. so may i ask you guys a question. "if you have $1500 to spend on a 42" LCD TV which brand and what model would you get" i have also heard that glossy finish reflect alot of light and makes the TV hard to watch...isthat true? if that is true may then i would just PREFER ONLY matte screen LCD models. thanks!

The toshiba 545u doesnt have a glossy screen. It has a matte to semi matte screen. Glossy screens do reflect a lot of light and cause reflections. You'll get a lot of different opinions on which tv is better. Research the tvs you are interested in and compare the features and if possible find a place where you can compare picture quality with your own eyes. The 545u gives you a lot of features that improve the pq. It has a 10 bit panel, 14 bit processor, wcg-ccfl backlight instead of the more common ccfl backlight, x.v. color, 120hz anti-blur technology and super resolution technology to name a few. Try this thread if you havent already. There is plenty of info in it.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1073170
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Although more expensive, I'd say that the best 40-ish LCD is the Sony 40"XBR7 -- truly awesome picture quality with near LED-level blacks.
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For the specific 42" size, the 42lg70 is actually really good, and underrated imho. Color accuracy pre calibration is really good, only downfall is the black level isn't quite as good or samsung or sony.
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thanks guys for your advice... anyone else with their opinions or suggestions? what sets do you guys own? what if you have a little more cash, which 42" LCD would you guys buy? what do you guys think about the Toshiba 42XV545U or the Sony 40"XBR7(is there one that is 42") or the LG42lg70
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The only 42" LCD that Sony makes is the KDL-42V4100 which is one of there mid range LCD's.

If it has to be 42" then I'd grab the Toshiba 42XV545U which is what I almost got but because of a great deal I ended up going with a Sony 40W4100 + Sony S350 blu-ray player instead. (FS had a great combo deal)
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thanks guys for your advice... anyone else with their opinions or suggestions? what sets do you guys own? what if you have a little more cash, which 42" LCD would you guys buy? what do you guys think about the Toshiba 42XV545U or the Sony 40"XBR7(is there one that is 42") or the LG42lg70

If you absolutely must have a 42", then I'd go with the Toshiba 42XV545U. It's a very nice TV.
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for the specific 42" size, the 42lg70 is actually really good, and underrated imho. Color accuracy pre calibration is really good, only downfall is the black level isn't quite as good or samsung or sony.

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so i guess every would agree to get the Toshiba 42XV545U. thank you everyone for your input! THANKS!
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i saw a the toshiba 46inch 535 for the same price! i thinlk the only difference is the thickness. 535 is a bit thicker. anyhow if you got the room go for the 46inch.
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so i guess everyone would agree to get the Toshiba 42XV545U.

Nope. With your stated $1500 budget for a 42", I'd get a Sony, LG, or Samsung(40") before I'd get a Toshiba.

If I was more budget-constrained, then I'd look at the mid-tier brands such as 'shiba or Sharp.

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Nope. With your stated $1500 budget for a 42", I'd get a Sony, LG, or Samsung(40") before I'd get a Toshiba.

If I was more budget-constrained, then I'd look at the mid-tier brands such as 'shiba or Sharp.

may i ask what models of sony samsung or LG you might be talking about so we can compare. thanks!
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may i ask what models of sony samsung or LG you might be talking about so we can compare.

Looking at the Amazon pricing for various models...

- Samsung LN40A630 (Semi-matte screen, as you say you're worried about reflections. Also, the 46" version of this set is within your budget too- again, assuming Amazon).
- Sony 40" XBR6
- LG 42" LG70

I'd be pretty durn happy with any of those...

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Looking at the Amazon pricing for various models...

- Samsung LN40A630 (Semi-matte screen, as you say you're worried about reflections. Also, the 46" version of this set is within your budget too- again, assuming Amazon).
- Sony 40" XBR6
- LG 42" LG70

I'd be pretty durn happy with any of those...


and in your opinion, any of these are better than the toshiba that i'm looking at?
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I'd say the Samsung 630 and the Sony XBR6 are both slightly better than the Toshiba 545. I'd rate the LG70 as a slight step below. Any of the four TVs should be perfectly acceptable, however.
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i think the toshiba easily stands up to the sony and samsung, to me the samsungs, look grainy up close and the sonys, do a better job with motion but the off angels are not as good as the samsung, the toshiba has know grain dose a good job with motion but its like a mixture between the sony, and samsung, making it the winner.
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While most of us on this forum try to be objective and give varying degrees of advice based on the circumstances, Motogp never met a Toshiba he didn't like.
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Did you need 42" for a reason? For under $1500 online, you could get a Samsung 46A650 or 46A630.
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Leo all these tvs that have been suggested are excellent tvs imo. But if you compare the features and what you get for your money the toshiba xv545u is the winner imo.

Afew highlights:

120hz
Super resolution technology. None of the others have this feature.
10 bit panel.
14 bit processor.
wcg-ccfl backlight. Same type used in the sony xbr.

This is toshibas top of the line tv and they put all the technology available to them into this tv. They didnt put an ethernet port or pip in the tv. A lot of people wouldnt use these features anyway. I found the pip on the 630 I owned to not be of much use because it was difficult to navigate. They instead chose to concentrate on adding features that give the best picture quality possible and in my opinion and most of the other owners opinions on this forum they have succeeded.
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Nope. With your stated $1500 budget for a 42", I'd get a Sony, LG, or Samsung(40") before I'd get a Toshiba.

If I was more budget-constrained, then I'd look at the mid-tier brands such as 'shiba or Sharp.

Sharp and Toshiba are hardly mid-tier brands. They are in the same league as Sony or Samsung - if anything, LG would be better stated as a mid-tier brand.
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Sharp and Toshiba are hardly mid-tier brands. They are in the same league as Sony or Samsung - if anything, LG would be better stated as a mid-tier brand.

Agree.
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and in your opinion, any of these are better than the toshiba that i'm looking at?

All three are, the Samsung and Sony by a wider margin than the LG.

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Sharp and Toshiba are hardly mid-tier brands. They are in the same league as Sony or Samsung

Same league in image quality? Maybe, if Samsung and Sony are the Steelers and Cardinals, and Toshiba and Sharp are .500 teams. Pretty good, but in no danger of being the best.

Same league in marketshare? Nope. Samsung and Sony are pretty much blowing everyone else away there, including, yup, Sharp and Toshiba:

NPD said Samsung accounted for 26.7 percent of the U.S. digital TV market for the first eleven months of last year [2008], followed by Sony (14.8%), Panasonic (7.2), Toshiba (6.8) and LG Electronics (6.7).

Doesn't appear that Sharp even cracked the top five.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news...123_37128.html

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Agree.

I would agree also.

And market share has nothing to do with quality.
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Same league in image quality? Maybe, if Samsung and Sony are the Steelers and Cardinals, and Toshiba and Sharp are .500 teams. Pretty good, but in no danger of being the best.

Same league in marketshare? Nope. Samsung and Sony are pretty much blowing everyone else away there, including, yup, Sharp and Toshiba:

NPD said Samsung accounted for 26.7 percent of the U.S. digital TV market for the first eleven months of last year [2008], followed by Sony (14.8%), Panasonic (7.2), Toshiba (6.8) and LG Electronics (6.7).

Doesn't appear that Sharp even cracked the top five.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news...123_37128.html

Market share has nothing to do with this topic...

On topic, I would just grab the Toshiba. But then again I am a happy owner of a Toshiba 42RV535U, so I may be biased.

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Market share has nothing to do with this topic...

The person who made the 'same league' comment didn't define what they meant by it, so I addressed it from both of the obvious angles... performance and sales. Sry if that offends anyone (though I don't see why it would).

And I don't hate Toshiba, they just seem to be an also-ran, or close, in a very crowded market. Maybe a 'good value' set, but not best-of-breed.

That said, if there's a particularly great deal at Costco on one, and you're not the sort of person who's extremely picky (like me), go ahead and pull the trigger on a 'shiba. Heck, why not?
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The person who made the 'same league' comment didn't define what they meant by it, so I addressed it from both of the obvious angles... performance and sales. Sry if that offends anyone (though I don't see why it would).

And I don't hate Toshiba, they just seem to be an also-ran, or close, in a very crowded market. Maybe a 'good value' set, but not best-of-breed.

That said, if there's a particularly great deal at Costco on one, and you're not the sort of person who's very picky (like me), go ahead and pull the trigger on a 'shiba. Why not?
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I wouldnt consider them an also ran. They always made a quality product. I owned one of their rptv's in the nineties. They received excellent reviews back then also. They are actually a newcomer to the lcd market but have increased their market share every year since the mid 2000's. That doesnt sound like an also ran to me.
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Someday, maybe, Toshiba LCDs will be cutting-edge, and we'll be saying their name in same breath with Sony and Samsung when someone asks, "Who makes the best LCD TV?". But, they're just not there yet.

This CNET review pretty much echoes what I always think when I view Toshiba sets... good, but not great:

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...?tag=mncol;lst

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Someday, maybe, Toshiba LCDs will be cutting-edge, and we'll be saying their name in same breath with Sony and Samsung when someone asks, "Who makes the best LCD TV?". But, they're just not there yet.

This CNET review pretty much echoes what I always think when I view Toshiba sets... good, but not great:

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...?tag=mncol;lst

I would consider srt cutting edge?

Im sure you've read my posts on that review and how lame and unfair it was.
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