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Cleveland Plasma 03-04-2009 10:41 AM

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Rob79 03-04-2009 10:44 AM

Very much looking forward to your thoughts on this, and how the BLU's on the side compete with the Samsung 950's with the LD's Please post your thoughts ASAP, thanks!

Also just noticed the LED tv logo on top right have a Red, Green, Blue in the E. Hope this means they have went away from the White only and hopefully explains why they are going away from teh LD tech. Hey why don;t you grab your closest screw driver, you know the one in the pic! and check things out for us >

Cleveland Plasma 03-04-2009 10:57 AM

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This unit is thinner then what I saw at CES, these have to be no more than 3/4 of an inch thick ..... wow !! Anyone up for a break in party in Cleveland? ( I am pretty excited at this moment)

PENDRAG0ON 03-04-2009 11:06 AM

Your getting a lot of these new sets in.

omeletpants 03-04-2009 11:08 AM

We need a review and comparison to the 950 local dimming LED LCD

PENDRAG0ON 03-04-2009 11:13 AM

So this is a Edge lit LED display then?

CNET didn't seem all that impressed with Sony's attempt at edge lit LCD....
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...rColumnArea1.1

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Originally Posted by Sony Bravia KLV-40ZX1M View Post

The good:
Ultrathin panel creates a high-tech design; hidden cords; relatively accurate color; numerous picture controls; energy efficient.

The bad:
Extremely expensive; subpar black-level performance and color saturation; uneven screen uniformity; scant connectivity with just one HDMI input.

The bottom line:
As the first large-screen edge-lit LED-based LCD, Sony's KLV-40ZX1M looks stunning turned off, but it falls short when powered up.


Cleveland Plasma 03-04-2009 11:16 AM

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Rob79 03-04-2009 11:19 AM

Yes this is edge lit as far as anyone knows, but we are hoping it uses color LED's and not just white but until we get some reviews or someone opens one up it will be hard to know. But now that Cleveland Plasma has them in we will at least know about PQ very soon >

bigtiny50 03-04-2009 11:47 AM

My 950 had green red blue on the sticker also, this does not mean they use color LED.

Rob79 03-04-2009 11:49 AM

Thanks for the crushing news, I new it was a huge strech but hey >
I still do not understand why they would dump the LD tech so soon after but hopefully someone can fill me in. Thanks

BIGJOHNB20 03-04-2009 12:25 PM

While I still would rather have a better performing/PQ set compared to a thin set, I got to admit that is a nice looking TV. Hopefully it looks as good turned on!

Are you planning on powering it up and giving some feedback?

bdsams 03-04-2009 12:38 PM

wow, this is the TV i want, im waiting for local retailers to get them in! Please give us a review!!!

Lindseybp 03-04-2009 01:15 PM

Wow! Maybe I should drive up from Cincinnati! Can't wait to hear what your impressions are!!

iatacs19 03-04-2009 01:25 PM

More pics~!

Mystique 03-04-2009 01:31 PM

I wonder how this TV compared to the 650/750/850/950.

lipcrkr 03-04-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob79 View Post

Yes this is edge lit as far as anyone knows, but we are hoping it uses color LED's and not just white but until we get some reviews or someone opens one up it will be hard to know. But now that Cleveland Plasma has them in we will at least know about PQ very soon >

They are white LED's.

poiv3 03-04-2009 02:32 PM

What about the screen in this series? Are they as reflective as 650s?

E55 KEV 03-04-2009 02:34 PM

wafer thin and beautiful - even with the wrapping.

PENDRAG0ON 03-04-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by E55 KEV View Post

wafer thin and beautiful - even with the wrapping.

Lets just hope that the PQ can match the Aesthetics..... because that is one sleek LCD.

swamdog 03-04-2009 02:43 PM

Fire that puppy up Chris and let us know what you think.

lipcrkr 03-04-2009 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by poiv3 View Post

What about the screen in this series? Are they as reflective as 650s?

The B7 uses the UCP.

HiFiFun 03-04-2009 03:24 PM

What is Samsung's SmartLighting?
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Samsung's SmartLighting system positions an array of bright white LEDs behind the LCD panel. Different clusters of LEDs can be controlled independently, from full-on brightness to completely off. The ability to turn the light source off allows the SmartLighting system to deliver much deeper black levels than a conventional fluorescent backlight or edge lit LED. SmartLighting also dramatically improves picture contrast, expanding the range of gray tones from absolute black to brilliant white. Images on the 950 series have tremendous punch and impact, along with colors that look more nuanced and natural.
I'm forced to conclude that an intelligent design is better.

For those who want the best Samsung has to offer:
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/d...=LNT4681FX/XAA
BTW the 950 is dropping in price. Perhaps Mr. Unbiased Cleveland will confirm?

HiFiFun 03-04-2009 03:31 PM

2008 Samsung 950 SmartLighting
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"Combining Samsung's LED SmartLighting and Auto Motion Plus 120Hz technologies in one high-performance LCD HDTV, the model 950 LCD represents Samsung's continued focus on advancing the very highest picture quality available to consumers in the current HDTV market," said Jonas Tanenbaum, Vice President of LCD Television Marketing at Samsung Electronics America. As Samsung's second generation LCD HDTV to use advanced LED SmartLighting with local dimming technology, the Series 9 LCD HDTV is able to achieve dramatic contrast levels and express "actual black levels" by completely shutting off a pixel's light source, eliminating the grayish black picture plaguing many LCD HDTVs. Conversely, groups of pixels can be locally controlled to produce more light increasing the brightness of the Series 9's picture when necessary. "

2009 LED DumbLighting
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"Each of the three Samsung LED HDTV Series for 2009 boast high dynamic contrast ratios, complements of Samsung’s ground breaking LED light source. Compared to a traditional CCFL, LEDs produce darker blacks that appear endlessly deep to the eye (and not measurements).
And with an adaptive “Natural” mode, Samsung’s LED HDTVs can combine the recognized brightness advantage of LCD displays with the cinema-like viewing experience of plasma displays by automatically optimizing picture settings."
Here Samsung admits they will raise and lower the few edge mounted light LED dynamically as one. An all black screen will look great - if that is what you enjoy watching. Native, static contrast ratios are NO better than traditional CCFL used in this year’s models. Mixed brightness pictures will always involve a tradeoff. If the light is commanded brighter the blacks will suffer. If commanded down the whites will suffer. Take your pick. It is a complete mischaracterization to call this effect optimizing the picture setting. Great marketing in turning a liability into a feature!
Kick me if I'm stupid!

http://www.samsung.com/us/news/newsR...rom_dt=&to_dt=

http://www.samsung.com/us/news/newsR...type=localnews

HiFiFun 03-04-2009 04:16 PM

Auto Motion Plus 120Hz + LED Motion Plus
New for 2008, the Series 9 LED LCDs combine both Samsung's Auto Motion Plus 120Hz frame interpolation and LED Motion Plus backlight scanning technologies to greatly reduce motion judder and image blurring that can occur in fast-paced action scenes or sports broadcasts.

Do these new displays incorporate the Samsung LED Motion Plus or just the common 120Hz processing?

d34dl1n3r 03-04-2009 04:21 PM

"Owers Thread".

Anyway, can't wait for your review on this!!!

Cleveland Plasma 03-04-2009 04:43 PM

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typo, but I was excited. Especially when these where supposed to be 1.5 inches thick, not 3/4 of an inch 60 # too, oh my, light as a feather.

sharkcohen 03-04-2009 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob79 View Post

Thanks for the crushing news, I new it was a huge strech but hey >
I still do not understand why they would dump the LD tech so soon after but hopefully someone can fill me in. Thanks

We don't know that they've dumped local dimming, yet. They could release a 2009 local dimming set later in the year. The 950 came out later than the other models last year.

sharkcohen 03-04-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Thin !!


Beautiful. Get to watching some stuff and let us know how it is!!!

simplemath 03-04-2009 04:59 PM

Comes in a nice looking box. I read somewhere that these new panels were mostly for business use where thin was the bigger factor over picture quality. Since the information being shown would not be of blu ray quality in most cases. Running hd cable in an office or running video conference from work, these would more than fill the bill for what was needed.

Not sure they will impress home use where size and picture quality trump thin.

Looking forward for the details though. cnet will have one soon.

avboysarehot 03-04-2009 05:11 PM

WOW! Nice set. Have you logged any hours on that yet? I think thin is great. Hopefully will hang more like a picture instead of an extra appendage. Do they work with "normal mounts" or do you know yet?


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