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post #91 of 520 Old 03-09-2009, 08:07 AM
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Cleveland Plasma can you answer me, please...
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Can Samsung UN55B7100 play movies in MKV format over ethernet or from a USB stick?

It's very important for me...
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I would also like to know if it can play mkv files over a usb source
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Measurements of the Samsung are attached in my original review post.
I didn't save the measurements of the 800u, but it was extremely similar to other 800u's I've done with the exception of light output, which varies from about 33 to 40 ft-l on different sets. This one did 40. I can post a cal report of another 800u if desired.

Ok, thanks. I've found it. The measurements after calibration looks very good, except the RGB Tracking. Are you sure that you cannot improve RGB Tracking?
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from the pics it looks like the samsungs better. Lets see how the new Panny's stack up against the new Sammy's tho. Plz do a comparison when you get one.

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Ok, thanks. I've found it. The measurements after calibration looks very good, except the RGB Tracking. Are you sure that you cannot improve RGB Tracking?

Yes. The main thing of interest is the blue dip at 20-30%. The only way to fill it in would have been to have even more excess blue at 10% if I raised the cut, or overall if I raised the drive. The red vs green error at the low end was dictated by the coarseness of the steps.
Also, keep in mind that CalMAN's tracking graph is zoomed in compared to Colorfacts and graphs reported in magazines, so the error looks worse here than on other published graphs. Each division is only 5%, whereas on many graphs they are 20%.

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Ya just keep taunting me Tomorrow I will have a Panasonic TC-P50G10 here, but it will not be calibrated

Is this still on the Menu? Can't wait to hear what you think of this set?
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Yes. The main thing of interest is the blue dip at 20-30%. The only way to fill it in would have been to have even more excess blue at 10% if I raised the cut, or overall if I raised the drive. The red vs green error at the low end was dictated by the coarseness of the steps.
Also, keep in mind that CalMAN's tracking graph is zoomed in compared to Colorfacts and graphs reported in magazines, so the error looks worse here than on other published graphs. Each division is only 5%, whereas on many graphs they are 20%.

Oh yes, you are right. I didn't see that each division is only 5%. So, the measurements are really excellent.

Can you measure contrast ratio and black level with a chest test pattern, please? Because real black level isn't 0.00 cd/m². Only if you show a complete black image.
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Why yes it is and it will be calibrated on wednesday a true shootoff to come.......



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Why yes [the G10] is and it will be calibrated on wednesday a true shootoff to come

Thank you Chris (and thank you Chad, if you're the one doing the calibration duties again)... most awesome.
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Why yes it is and it will be calibrated on wednesday a true shootoff to come.......

Darn,...now i might have to throw the G10 into my purchase options...G10...950...Luxia...hmm....decisions, decisions...
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Why yes it is and it will be calibrated on wednesday a true shootoff to come.......

Have you unboxed it yet? Any impressions?
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I am not sure.....

Can you try, when you have freetime?
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I really have to admit! The Panasonic G10 sounds quite good.

However, as I stare at wave forms on Protools and Logic for up to 5-6 hours at a time (which I will be doing on my next set), I would be the PRIME candidate for burn in (no matter how much better it has gotten). Could anybody give me their opinions?

Can't wait to see comparison pics! This year's sets have really improved in contrast and color depth! I'm glad I've waited so long.
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Note the title change. Later today it is on "like donkey kong"

Of course you realize that you now have to provide screen shots of Donkey Kong.
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Good thread. If the pictures were unlabeled I doubt anyone could guess which is which. And even if you could, the images we're seeing are being filtered in several ways - at the camera, in scaling, and by whatever you're viewing them on. Can't make any firm judgements so it's nice to have the calibrator's thoughts.

I'd be interested in hearing more about the viewing angle degradation - at what angle does the Samsung's PQ begin to degrade, and how bad does it get? This is a critical issue for a lot of people and is often glossed over in these sorts of reviews.

Also curious about performance in various lighting conditions. How are the anti-glare properties, reflections? I've been shocked at the terrible reflections in the 2008 glossy screen Samsung LCDs. Is this the same, better?

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Where is the fully calibrated 50G10 that is listed in the thread title?

Edit: nevermind
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Seems the G10 is showing more on the screen than the 7100.
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Wow based on these pics, the Panny is the rightful king of shadow detail. The Sammy is dark, but crushes some detail.
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Wow based on these pics, the Panny is the rightful king of shadow detail. The Sammy is dark, but crushes some detail.

It does. Wish some Kuro shoots were around. I am impressed the technology the Samsung packs for its size but a for sure nod to Panasonic.
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Wow based on these pics, the Panny is the rightful king of shadow detail. The Sammy is dark, but crushes some detail.

Samsung LED LCD is pretty much plasma quality.
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Looking at those last pictures, I can't tell a difference....
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Man that Samsung picture is bangin.
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Looking at those last pictures, I can't tell a difference....

It took me awhile to find it, but once you do you'll see that the Panny shows alot more details in the dark, shadowy parts of the picture.
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