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Ha! Italiano I just saw your edit. I am reading up to see if this is the TV I want to purchase. I currently have a 6 yr old RPTV (Sony) 51". I sit about 12 ft away. I do a ton of COD5 on Xbox and need to see how this TV performs compared to my current one with gaming. I was going to wait on a 58" Panny V series, but if this one works well without bleeding and gaming is good to go, it looks awesome. Your thoughts?

Also I dont know about upgrading only 4". Will I be able to tell?
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Oh, I know how it goes. I got it for about 65 with discount.

Gaming was a bit of a mix for me so far, but I was playing around with auto motion. I will probably leave it turned off, but the standard makes it seem pretty smooth as if playing a computer game with frames over 60.

If you are one for style, this tv I think is hands down the most sexy tv on the market right now, and it has a huge awe factor when you see it in person.

Simply put, this thing is like a computer monitor on steroids, it looks that good to me when hooked up for gaming or just for video off my computer.
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Oh, I know how it goes. I got it for about 65 with discount.

Didn't mean to butt in, I just saw the $250 price tag.
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Oh, I know how it goes. I got it for about 65 with discount.

Gaming was a bit of a mix for me so far, but I was playing around with auto motion. I will probably leave it turned off, but the standard makes it seem pretty smooth as if playing a computer game with frames over 60.

If you are one for style, this tv I think is hands down the most sexy tv on the market right now, and it has a huge awe factor when you see it in person.

Simply put, this thing is like a computer monitor on steroids, it looks that good to me when hooked up for gaming or just for video off my computer.

I just have heard everything with LCD and lag. I havent owned an LCD, only RPTV and plasma. I actually want to go the lcd route if I wont notice a difference between my RPTV and the LCD in terms of lag. I know everything else will be better.
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so is the 950 worth the extra cost?

For me it is as I already have a 950 Came home and put some good source material on and realized why I have the 950. But the 7100 comes close and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend one. BTW, the 7100 was easily the best set they were displaying (except for the 950 and Kuro Elite). It was significantly better than any of the panny plasmas, Samsung plasmas and Sony LCDs.

What was funny was a guy standing next to me that bought the Sony XBR6 even though it's blacks, detail and flesh tones were inferior to the 7100. Kept talking about the Sony reputation,
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That would work, but the one I would like to get is still L shaped, but its not bent forward or backwards, rather to the left or right. I'm not even sure if they make these, but it would be awesome if they do.

Almost forgot, I bought this wallmount yesterday and will hopefully get it going today. The only thing that scares me is how the hell I am supposed to get a handle on the tv or set it down before I hang it on the wall and take the stand off. I can't lay it on anything, and can't set it on anything since the bezel is like like an 8th of an inch think and about an inch tall.


How about this, or this?
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I dought it, but everyone has there own opinion.

Chris, is there really extra cost for the 950? With all the deals from various sources you might be able to get them for the same price.
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Chris, is there really extra cost for the 950? With all the deals from various sources you might be able to get them for the same price.

Doubtful, there's a dealer cost difference of 466 bucks between the 7100 and 950.
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In the places I looked, the 950 is hundreds cheaper than the 7100, at least for the 46" model.

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Do these TV's accept and pixelmap 1920x1080 via the VGA input?
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Do these TV's accept and pixelmap 1920x1080 via the VGA input?

Most likely since the previous generation Samsung sets did.

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In the places I looked, the 950 is hundreds cheaper than the 7100, at least for the 46" model.

Exactly. Last night I just picked up a 46a950 for quite a bit less than what a 7100 would have cost me. I'm not planning on mounting, so LCD depth wasn't an issue for me.

I do have to admit, these new skinny sets are pretty slick though.
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Well I guess when you look at a 46"....I was comparing the prices on the 55"s.
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55" 7100 is still hundreds cheaper than the 55" 950
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55" 7100 is still hundreds cheaper than the 55" 950

Depends on where you buy. I'm finding the 950 less than the 7100
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Since "streetprice" can't be quoted im gonna PM u.
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BTW, I am not trying to be argumentative, I am just trying to understand where the 6000 and 7100 fit into the grand scheme of things. The fact that they don't have local dimming really throws me off because they seem to be more along the lines of "in-between" sets or hybrids vs. the 650/750 at the lower end and the 950/whatever else is coming in the fall at the higher end.

that doesn't sound like you are confused. it sounds like you don't like your accurate assesment for some reason.


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Here are a few photos of my setup, the tv is friggin massive in person, you can see the 360 controller to get an idea of how big it is. I wasn't kidding in the calibration thread when I said it was waaaay too big for my room, haha.







Not the best camera, I had the iso set to high, but it is still kinda blurry. Give me suggestions for tweaks and stuff for the tv and I will try to answer questions if I can.


Hi, would you be able to take some pictures from the back, some close up pictures of all the ports. Trying to figure it out which audio system would would be appropriate for this TV. Thanks!
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i have the 6100 40".

i like the wireless remote and the red touch of color isn't so bad after all. But the power light on the TV can get anoying sometimes. Can this be dimmed?

the sound quality seems good for the size. being so thin.

And this 40" TV with no stand only weighs 32.4 lbs ! one person can handle it no problem at all. Even going up 3 flights of stairs.

Congrats on your new LED.I happened to see the 7100 in bestbuy friday.I looked at the tag and it said 3,000,000:1 mega dynamic contrast ratio .Is it the same for the 6100?

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Congrats on your new LED.I happened to see the 7100 in bestbuy friday.I looked at the tag and it said 3,000,000:1 mega dynamic contrast ratio .Is it the same for the 6100?

Ignore the dynamic contrast ratio crap since that number means nothing. From what I can tell the 6000 (as there is no 6100 at this time) does everything the 7100 does but Yahoo widgets, Media 2.0, and preloaded content.

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I see.Thanks for clearing that up.I plan on buying an LCD very soon to replace my XBR970.I really want a sammy LED.

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Ignore the dynamic contrast ratio crap since that number means nothing. From what I can tell the 6000 (as there is no 6100 at this time) does everything the 7100 does but Yahoo widgets, Media 2.0, and preloaded content.

I thought I read someplace that the 7100 had wireless and the 6000 didn't? If what you say above is true and they are both basically the same excepts for the items mentioned, I'd probably go with the 6000, Can anyone confirm the differences between the 7100 and 6000? I cannot see a big diff on the Sammy website.
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I happened to get a UN55B7100.






That is an amazing set!
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So you provide testimony of "Stunning" with displayed content and "Fantastic Color" and then you judge the panel negatively VOID of Display material - when it's void it's waiting to perform Dynamically?

Are you giving us feedback that with actual content displayed from source material you observed flashlighting or clouds? When do you view and enjoy on a VOID Display anyways - all that friggin counts is what your viewing and if the events replicate at those times IMO.

Technically if it doesn't replicate during content then why give a crap unless your OCD on viewing VOID screens? Sort of like analysing a Porche 911 while it's in neutral or Park Mode when it's not performing.

Please provide us a technical analysis of how VOID screen lighting means a damn thing vs. displayed content - if it doesn't replicate when displaying source than it doesn't mean JACK!

Like I said the backlight nearly shuts off completely on a blank screen or one with no input. Therefore no clouding or flashlighting is visible in this case.

Both phenomenon manifested themselves during ACTUAL CONTENT There was a particularly heinous cloud that could be seen at all times during darker to moderately lit scenes and the flashlighting extended far enough into the black letterbox bars to be distracting. Keep in mind, this wasn't a completely darkened enviroment. The department store lights were probably at the level of a normal room. Even with fullscreen material the flashlighting caused a shift in color at the corners especially towards the bottom right.

I apologize if I didn't make myself clearer initially. I could care less about staring at a blank screen and looking for imperfections, but what I saw was distracting enough to make me think a little harder. Seeing this panel next to the 58" plasmas affirmed that I couldn't really live with a softer and duller look. It really does have seem to have the best overall picture I've ever seen minus a few BL issues. So I'm really just looking for my best options.

Going from what Chixdiggit said about his set I'm still quite optimistic. But I think I might wait until a few other LED BL sets come out... maybe.
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I thought I read someplace that the 7100 had wireless and the 6000 didn't? If what you say above is true and they are both basically the same excepts for the items mentioned, I'd probably go with the 6000, Can anyone confirm the differences between the 7100 and 6000? I cannot see a big diff on the Sammy website.

I think you are right there is wireless as well. However, it looks like it might not be built in but instead via USB. You could probably buy that part for the 6000. Also since there is no 6100 series that means you can only get the 6000 which has red TOC.

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Like I said the backlight nearly shuts off completely on a blank screen or one with no input. Therefore no clouding or flashlighting is visible in this case.

Both phenomenon manifested themselves during ACTUAL CONTENT There was a particularly heinous cloud that could be seen at all times during darker to moderately lit scenes and the flashlighting extended far enough into the black letterbox bars to be distracting. Keep in mind, this wasn't a completely darkened enviroment. The department store lights were probably at the level of a normal room. Even with fullscreen material the flashlighting caused a shift in color at the corners especially towards the bottom right.

I apologize if I didn't make myself clearer initially. I could care less about staring at a blank screen and looking for imperfections, but what I saw was distracting enough to make me think a little harder. Seeing this panel next to the 58" plasmas affirmed that I couldn't really live with a softer and duller look. It really does have seem to have the best overall picture I've ever seen minus a few BL issues. So I'm really just looking for my best options.

Going from what Chixdiggit said about his set I'm still quite optimistic. But I think I might wait until a few other LED BL sets come out... maybe.

Just so you know my Pioneer 111FD Kuro set also has black blotches that are darker than other areas on a blank input. Nothing is perfect so those who care about clouds make sure its actually impacting your viewing, not just a blank screen.

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I dought it, but everyone has there own opinion.

Chris, have you been drinking?
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Warning! Big photos, haha. Dial-up users should run away.

I finally finished wall-mounting my 7100, it was a pain. All I can say is it was fun learning how, but I friggin hated doing it, lots of work, lol.

Anyhoo, took some time since it was nice and dark and snapped some photos of various exposures showing the ups and downs of the screen. This set is basically calibrated by my eye, and pretty much only the backlight has been set to 2 while all other options are based on movie mode.

Here's a high exposure to show the bleeding in the corners, the room is much darker but this does stick out a bit, only in dark scenes.


Here's a regular shot of what the actual room darkness is close to.


Shot of same scene and tv wall-mounted. The movie looks exactly like this when the room is darkened.


Another scene showing some more good dark levels.


Here's a little gradient test. This test is awesome, and really shows what the tv can do. I can discern the last 2 percentages, even though it is hard to see in the photo. Link here of the test I used.


Here's another shot close to what Cleveland showed awhile back.



Random scene with more black levels


This one turned out weird, it sort of exaggerates the bleeding though. I think the battery on the camera died like 5 seconds after this shot, probably why it turned out funky.


Last one showing tv on wall and how much more room I have. I totally need some new furniture to get some carpet back, it can save me another foot or so if I get a less deep stand.


I see a white dot in alot of those, that better not be a dead pixel, lol. I'm gonna check it right now...
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