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i'm watching shows on my TWC HD Box...and every 5 minutes or so, the screen will freeze....then start back... it is annoying and happens every 5 minutes or so when i'm watching TV.

does this sound like a faulty cable box or what? Thanks


Sounds like a low signal issue. Mine did this several weeks prior to getting the new 52".

BrightHouse came out and ran a new line from the pole to my house and all new wiring in the house at no charge. Picture is flawless.
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I understand what your saying digi. Sorry to hear you had problems. For me even though there is flashing I feel it overall outweighed by the extreme black level this set puts out.

For me the other LCD just don't pack the punch due to much lower 3800:1 static contrasts so they are out. And Im just not rdy to go plasma with IR and possible Burn.

Anyhow hope you get something that suits you and take care man.


Quoted for truth. I think people are mislead by the inflated dynamic contrast ratios. The contrast ratio that should be advertised is the static/native contrast.

About 3 weeks ago, I was at Best Buy checking out prospective tv's. They had the S model, V model and XBR9 model all lined up vertically. When I was looking at the picture of all 3 of them, I had no idea which model was which. I was just judging them by picture.

The tv in the middle had a much better picture than the other 2. I even asked my sister her opinion and she said the middle one as well. I had to find out which model it was. I was shocked that it was the V model. I kid you not. I was wondering how a non XBR model could have a better picture than an XBR model. Well folks, what serialmike and I think the answer is, is the native contrast.

I'm not just saying that because I own it, but I honestly believe it's one of the best LCD's out right now. Besides, my eyes fell in love with the picture before I knew what model it was!
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Issue: Popping sound when switching between SD & HD channels.
Consideration: Can/does the popping sound hurt the speakers?
Workaround 1. If you have a DirectTV box, turn off native resolution, see instructions.
If you have a motorola box, set 4:3 Override to OFF in your cable box settings, instructions. Downside, this setting adds black bars to the sides of SD screens.
Workaround 2: Use Component cable, instead of HDMI cable. Downside, image quality may not be as good.

How to reproduce:
o Happens when using HDMI cable; doesn't happen when using Component cable, see coolowl #373.
o Happens when using builtin TV speakers, doesn't happen when using other speakers.
o Happens when switch I from SD to HD, or HD to SD; doesn't happen when I switch from SD to SD, or HD to HD.
o Happens when volume is up, loudness of pop depends on vol level; doesn't happen when muted or Vol = 0.
o Happens when TV is cold (just turned on), and when TV is warm (on for extended time).

I scanned this thread looking for those that have this issue. A list of those I identified is posted below.

1. coolowl #329 05-08-09 Changed cable box, HDMI cable, HDMI port - didn't help.; #337 05-08-09 Pops when using cable box, no pop when cable runs directly into the TV; #373 05-12-09 Exchanged TV, didn't help; #376 05-12-09; #378 05-12-09; #889 06-25-09; #903 06-26-09 I just got off the phone with Sony to report my garbled sound issue.; #907 06-26-09; #941 06-29-09 all of a sudden the sound would become garbled and after ten seconds or so would disappear altogether. I'd wait and after 30 seconds or so the sound would come back. I decided to immediately record this on the DVR. Guess what? There's no sound problem with the playback. What? Everything is perfect on the DVR recording. Yet, when I was watching things live I kept having the intermittent sound problem described above.; #953 06-30-09 I had the cable company reshoot the signal, it didn't help; Insight Motorola DCH6416;
2. chong67 #331 05-08-09 Makes some popping noise when I change channel the first few minutes of it. After that, it change channel without any noise. Dish Receiver DVR 611
3. scottdau #334 05-08-09 DirectTV
4. TempletonPeck #806 06-20-09; #815 06-20-09; cable box
5. March47 #809 06-20-09 DirectTV
6. djbigf #818 06-21-09; FiOS Motorola box
7. Cuc Tu #888 06-25-09 Loud pop when changing channels; #890 06-25-09; No cable box. Using antenna and TV tuner. #948 06-29-09
8. DigitallyFlat #896 06-26-09 fw=4.01; cable box, none of his posts tell what kind. He returned the TV.
9. PornFan #915 06-27-09 Direct TV HD with one of the most recent HD boxes connected to my TV with an HDMI cable.
10. Lilla fw=4.01; #1032 07-04-09; #1085 07-08-09 possible solution for audio with blank screen problem when changing channels; Comcast > Motorola DCH3200 HD non-DVR > 46V5100 HDMI-1
11. Mighty Hd fw=4.01; #1044 07-04-09 BrightHouse HD box does not have HDMI output's, only coax and component; #1079 07-07-09
12. amdriven2liv #1080 07-07-2009 Charter>Motorola DVR>HDMI>46V5100

Personally, I don't like the black bars, so I would like to see this issue fixed.
If we simply add the workaround and don't complain to Sony, then this issue won't get fixed.

Later this week I am going to contact Sony about this issue. I plan to reference this post to help SONY realize that this is an issue that needs to be fixed in the next firmware update.

If you have this issue and want your name added to this list please post in this thread and I will add your name. Further, it would help if all could add information about their gear to their AVSForum.com profile, as I have done, then SONY can access this information to help troubleshoot the problem.

Further, I am interested to know if there are ANY people that do NOT have this issue? If so, please post in this thread. See how to reproduce this problem above.

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Issue: Popping sound when switching between SD & HD channels.
Consideration: Can/does the popping sound hurt the speakers?
Workaround: Set 4:3 Override to OFF in your cable box settings, instructions. Downside, this setting adds black bars to the sides of SD channels.

How to reproduce: Happens when using HDMI cable; doesn't happen when using Component cable. Happens when using builtin TV speakers, doesn't happen when other speakers. The loudness of the pop depends upon volume level. Doesn't happen when muted.

I scanned this thread looking for people that have this issue. A list of those I identified is posted below.

1 coolowl #329 05-08-09
2 chong67 #331 05-08-09
3 scottdau #334 05-08-09
4 TempletonPeck #806 06-20-09
5 djbigf #818 06-21-09
6 Cuc Tu #888 06-25-09
7 DigitallyFlat #896 06-26-09 fw=4.01
8 PornFan #915 06-27-09
9 UnDone14 #1030 07-04-09
10 Lilla #1032 07-04-09 fw=4.01 Comcast Motorola DCH3200 non-DVR => 46V5100 HDMI-1

Personally, I don't like the black bars, so I would like to see this issue fixed.
If we simply add the workaround and don't complain to Sony, then this issue won't get fixed.

Later this week I am going to contact Sony about this issue. I plan to reference this post to help SONY realize that this is an issue that needs to be fixed in the next firmware update.

If you have this issue and want your name added to this list please post in this thread and I will add your name. Further, it would help if all could add information about their gear to their AVSForum.com profile, as I have done, then SONY can access this information to help troubleshoot the problem.

Further, I am interested to know if there are ANY people that do NOT have this issue? If so, please post in this thread. See how to reproduce this problem above.

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There is entirely a possability I have the issue. I would guess I do. But my sound is turned off. I exclusively use my surround system.
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There is entirely a possability I have the issue. I would guess I do. But my sound is turned off. I exclusively use my surround system.

Yeah you probably do. It does gargle and pop. It is also only on HDTV channels. That would be cool if they could fix it.
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Yeah you probably do. It does gargle and pop. It is also only on HDTV channels. That would be cool if they could fix it.

My new set is doing this as well when only on HD channels.
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Popping sounds.

I run Charter>Motorola DVR>HDMI>46V5100 / audio through simple stereo system.

I turned my 4:3 override to off it ended the popping. I had done this with component also and have had same results.

For the black bars to be gone, I need to go to screen menu and change "wide mode" to "zoom" which ends up losing some edges of the picture. Like my "pre" LCD TV's did.

So if they can change this, it would be great. But, I have become an HD SNOB. I watch as few SD channels as possible.
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On the garbling that people are complaining about, by any chance does it sound more like crackling or static? I've noticed that several times on my V5100 and it was doing it badly tonight.

It started while using component and audio cables from a Moto cable box. Switched channels, still bad. Switched to HDMI through my rcvr with tv muted, still bad so I thought it was the Moto box. Switched back to component, still bad. Cycled power on TV and cable box, still bad. Switched the TV input from component to HDMI (no signal because rcvr was off) then back to component, crackling is gone. It's been a couple of hours with no problem.

Could the TV be corrupting the HDMI audio signal some how causing it to affect the rcvr audio as well? I can't see how else I would get crackling through both the TV speakers and rcvr speakers unless it was the cable box and a complete coincidence that the cracking resolved after switching inputs back and forth. I'm gonna keep an eye on this.
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In Batman Begins around chapter 30 and 31 (I believe), during the birthday party for Bruce Wayne, you should be able to see a good bit of it. Just watch peoples faces and observe the color changes.

Also, if you happen to have Toy Story 2, observe the opening title scene (where the title appears on screen with the space/stars background). You might notice that the yellow text changes color slightly.

These are both DVDs. I haven't noticed the effect as much on Blu-ray.

I see the change in color tone in both movies. I looked at these scenes in slow motion and stepped frame and found that the entire frame changed contrast, color, or brightness (hard to tell exactly what was changing) exactly on the same frame and to the same degree.

Turning everything that had an off setting to off only lessened the effect.
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StratDom, my garbled sound has two different components. Sometimes it is like an echo. The other times it happens the sound is fine, starts to go bad (break-ups, skips) completely goes out so that you hear nothing, wait twenty seconds and it comes back garbled and then sound perfect for a while. Then, it repeats the whole process.

I hear the 1st problem (the echoing) when the signal is straight from the wall - not going through a cable box or anything. This is how I watch SD channels.

I hear the 2nd problem when using the cable box.

Neither issue is that big a deal for me at this time. It happens only once in a while and is immediately corrected by changing channels. I've done all I can think of to fix it (unplug things, reset things, etc.).
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OK thanks. That's entirely different than my issue. I think I'll replace the cable box first and take it from there, if I can ever get my wife to catch up on her soaps...
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I'm having mine exchanged for another of the same model. It may be this TV or it may be my cable box but whatever it is there's an annoying problem with a popping sound when changing channels between HD and non-HD channels. It's an electrical "pop" sound that is kind of scary sounding...especially if the volume happens to be turned up.

Also, sometimes when changing channels the new channel's sound will come on but no picture. You have to flip back and forth a couple of times to make it appear. Not good.

The cable company came out yesterday and exchanged boxes. Unfortunately, that didn't help. The guy also tried a different HDMI cable and a different HDMI port. Neither of those things helped.

Coolowl, I think I may have found a solution for the issue “sometimes when changing channels the new channel's sound will come on but no picture”. Yesterday I noticed that it often happened when I was changing to a single digit channel number, such as channel 4; yet never happened when changing to a three digit channel number, such as channel 104.

This caused me to rethink a setting I had changed regarding my Comcast remote control. I had changed “Channel entry behavior” from “No Auto Tune (default)” to “Auto Tune”. With “No Auto Tune”, to go to channel 4, you enter 4, then press OK/Select button; or enter 004. With Auto Tune it is much simplier, to go to channel 4, you simply press 4 and channel 4 is displayed. It occurred to me that perhaps the amount of time allowed by Auto Tune is not enough for the new TV, and thus the audio without video (blank screen) problem. So I changed “Channel entry behavior” back to “No Auto Tune (default)” and so far at least, the problem seems to be fixed.

To access this setting on my Motorola DCH3200 HD non-DVR cable box,
o On the Comcast remote, press Menu
o On the TV screen, select Menu > Setup > Guide Setup
o Select “Channel entry behavior”. Choices: “No Auto Tune (default)” | “Auto Tune”
Use the arrow keys surrounding the OK/Select button to navigate.

coolowl, since you also have a Motorola receiver, I’m curious to know if the solution above works for you too.

We are also having the garbled sound. This looks like it will be a deal breaker for us. I am going to call Sony, but if no solution is forthcoming, it is likely we will be returning this TV. Will keep you posted.

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I think the sounds have to do with the tv channel. Some HDTV channels sound is better than others. It even does it on my other HDTV in my bed bedroom. It is just a thought. But it seems to be true with my TV's.
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So I tried serialmikes settings and to me the blacks are crushed a lot. Is there a reason to go with medium on the contrast enhancer?

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So I tried serialmikes settings and to me the blacks are crushed a lot. Is there a reason to go with medium on the contrast enhancer?

They are....Im not going with medium anymore....Im backing down to low. I dont know what happened but I suddenly can watch medium At all.

Whats wierd to me is that my pattern wasnt really showing crushed black. But when in dark scenes all of a sudden I seemed to either get them when I hadnt had them before or I just noticed them badly.

With low comes all new settings.
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They are....Im not going with medium anymore....Im backing down to low. I dont know what happened but I suddenly can watch medium At all.

Whats wierd to me is that my pattern wasnt really showing crushed black. But when in dark scenes all of a sudden I seemed to either get them when I hadnt had them before or I just noticed them badly.

With low comes all new settings.

Meaning you'll have a new set-up coming soon?

We all knew you would never truly be done tweaking this set. Looking forward to what you come up with next.
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They are....Im not going with medium anymore....Im backing down to low. I dont know what happened but I suddenly can watch medium At all.

Whats wierd to me is that my pattern wasnt really showing crushed black. But when in dark scenes all of a sudden I seemed to either get them when I hadnt had them before or I just noticed them badly.

With low comes all new settings.

Yeah I will get on some calibration tonight hopefully. The set seems to want to crush easily. I also noticed a little yellowing with those settings.

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Yeah I will get on some calibration tonight hopefully. The set seems to want to crush easily. I also noticed a little yellowing with those settings.

Yeah, thats there too. I just think the set between auto dim and other things does not respond well to test patterns. It needs some eye adjusting.


Thanks Goats. I do hope to be done tweaks. I like to calibrate. But I also like it to end and enjoy
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Oh great...now I have to rethink my set since serial mike has did a 360...yikes! So Mike, when do you think you'll have the new calibration ideas handy..lol! If you remember, I had origianlly had the ACE set to low and deepened my brightness but I changer that to your last setting...now I have to go back in and make my eyes water and my hair stand up...jk! By the way, I see you changed your white balance settings again from default...I have a question...I go to TweakTV at times and Kevin, on eof the calibrators there mentioned that he felt it odd that the default settings on the 52V5100 are set to Max on the Gains...he said there are usually set to 0...I am not sure how past Sony's have the Gains set to in default...is this a issue? Well, it looks like I will wait until evening and the get out my DVE disk and redo the white balance and blacks with a "low" setting on the ACE....oh yea!

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I too noticed that when I change channels using the HDMI input to the V5100 through my Directv HD DVR H23 box, I will get sound but no picture...I then have to either change the channel without the guide (since I can't see it) or turn off the TV and then turn it back on. I did some trouble shooting and figured out why this was happining. With the help of my Pioneer Elite VSX92TXH receiver, I noticed that a few weeks ago I changed the resloution setting in the H23 Sat Rec...to Native! That's what was causing the picture to sometimes go blank when changing channels! My AV receiver has auto HDMI processing and would notice everytime I changed the channel on the sat rec...the HDMI light would keep flashing like when it does when it notices a new connection.
Now that I turned off the Native function on the Directv rec...it has stopped! Hope this helps anyones that has the same problem!

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Oh great...now I have to rethink my set since serial mike has did a 360...yikes! So Mike, when do you think you'll have the new calibration ideas handy..lol! If you remember, I had origianlly had the ACE set to low and deepened my brightness but I changer that to your last setting...now I have to go back in and make my eyes water and my hair stand up...jk! By the way, I see you changed your white balance settings again from default...I have a question...I go to TweakTV at times and Kevin, on eof the calibrators there mentioned that he felt it odd that the default settings on the 52V5100 are set to Max on the Gains...he said there are usually set to 0...I am not sure how past Sony's have the Gains set to in default...is this a issue? Well, it looks like I will wait until evening and the get out my DVE disk and redo the white balance and blacks with a "low" setting on the ACE....oh yea!

Sorry for the back and forth. Part of the problem fo rme is I watch the set in the day (sometimes all day) and in the night. And I i have to get it right for both. And for me 2 different settings is unacceptable. I know there is a setting out there that will make me happy for both day and night viewing and for all my sources. Thats what I am after. Thats how my other sets were setup.

Another thing is the white balance. I know I need a meter. The white balance at warm on the set is like 6420 ish. A little warm and I dont like that same as you guys. But when I go with a white balance that knocks that out the set gets dim.

Probably because like you said the gains are maxed so I cannot get the red right buy increasing the other colors, only by working my way down till they are balanced better.
This is not uncommon to sony.

I am at default white balance again for the moment. I got the set calibrated last night and liked the night viewing. So far I like what I have today but I want to see it at night again.

Again I would like to look at the white balance but I dont think more than a notch or 2 adjusting is a wise idea anymore. In all honesty though I dont think the difference between 6400 and 6500 is massive tweaks. I know you guys say warm seems to red but remember warm doesnt mean flat white. warm and outside daytime is red-white. Go outside and look, I have been

One other thing, dont take all the tweaking to mean I dont love the set. I do. I am just OCD when it comes to this stuff. Nothing else really just my TV and PC monitors lol.
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Don't feel like the Lone Ranger Mike, I too am OCD with alot of neurotic on the side...I too keep going! Perfection seems to be a wolf in sheeps clothing. As I stated, Kevin from TweakTV thought the defaults on the white balance should be set to -0- on the scale, but he isn't Sony, soooooo
I too will break out the DVE disk tonight since I like trying to do any claibrations in the dark...and will try to get the best picture with the whites and blacks with the Pludge and see from there but I as you know, will be waiting inpatiently for your findings..lol!

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Sorry for the back and forth. Part of the problem fo rme is I watch the set in the day (sometimes all day) and in the night. And I i have to get it right for both. And for me 2 different settings is unacceptable. I know there is a setting out there that will make me happy for both day and night viewing and for all my sources. Thats what I am after. Thats how my other sets were setup.

Another thing is the white balance. I know I need a meter. The white balance at warm on the set is like 6420 ish. A little warm and I dont like that same as you guys. But when I go with a white balance that knocks that out the set gets dim.

Probably because like you said the gains are maxed so I cannot get the red right buy increasing the other colors, only by working my way down till they are balanced better.
This is not uncommon to sony.

I am at default white balance again for the moment. I got the set calibrated last night and liked the night viewing. So far I like what I have today but I want to see it at night again.

Again I would like to look at the white balance but I dont think more than a notch or 2 adjusting is a wise idea anymore. In all honesty though I dont think the difference between 6400 and 6500 is massive tweaks. I know you guys say warm seems to red but remember warm doesnt mean flat white. warm and outside daytime is red-white. Go outside and look, I have been

One other thing, dont take all the tweaking to mean I dont love the set. I do. I am just OCD when it comes to this stuff. Nothing else really just my TV and PC monitors lol.

Maybe try setting all the white balance to minimum and do a calibration? That way you can increase the colors individually rather than decrease.

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Quick question...if one wants to watch dvd's as the director meant it, is it right to keep it at 24fps? And if so, what should I set the Motion Enhancer and Cinemotion set too?
All this talk and calibrating is making me want to go poopy! Arggghhhhhhh!

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Cdub...Wish I could...but not sure with what I am really looking for when it comes to the white balance...easy to read and hear but hard to visualize when trying to do it for me! I might try one thing though and bring the Gains down to -0- and then see how that looks...since they are all at Max now...it should, just soften them I am guessing without going past the spectrum????

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My guess is that once they are turned bacy you can throw in some patterns and set your black and white levels based on these being on min and then you run colors. So you should be calibrated the same as with it on max but you will have headroom to add in colors rather than removing. it will raise the levels of everything though. Probably more color, more backlight, more everything. I might try tonight.

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My guess is that once they are turned bacy you can throw in some patterns and set your black and white levels based on these being on min and then you run colors. So you should be calibrated the same as with it on max but you will have headroom to add in colors rather than removing. it will raise the levels of everything though. Probably more color, more backlight, more everything. I might try tonight.


Turning white balance down makes the screen devaid of color and brightness.

White balance as best I can describe to you guys is this.

The gains control the color of white. White is your picture or contrast. So think of it as adjusting picture or contrast individually. So knocking down red by 7 and green by 4 and blue by 11 is knocking contrast way down. But only in the greyscale. Also it isnt so simple as just compensating by then jacking up the picture setting. That then causes over driving of the system and thus clipping along the grey scale or for lack of better description uneven color across the color spectrum.

The Bias controls the color of black or brightness. So think of that as adjusting the brightness individually thru the greyscale. So that knocking bias backwards to -5 red -4 green -11 blue is cutting the brightness of the picture in the greyscale. Again you cant simply pump up the brightness control to compensate becasue you overdrive the system and cause clipping and un even color thru the scales.

Adjusting the Gains and the Bias DO relate to each other as the color mid scale is affected by both controls. Starting to get the idea of how crazy it can make you

Ok now back to square one is that again the white balance of this set IS close to proper and considered excellent at 6420 ish. Though this is a hair red. I think that only a slight tweak of the Red Bias down to cool the image is the best solution.

Also remember that White balance is R-G-B or white and black colors all the way thru to mid grey. Not the saturation of the color R-G-B in the image. On this set we do not have control of that in regular menu or service menu. The set does push a little red as most sets tend to push red or green. More sets in the market tend to push red. Pushing a color is not the white balance. In other words we can tweak a little around the red push but not get at the culprit which is the color red itself. If you choose to use component you can get at that thru the service menu if you wish. I do not wish to adjust those settings.

With all that said the set has been tested to be around 6420 white balance (excellent out of box) and the color is also tested on this set to be very very accurate.

I will post the settings I am using a little later on. Perhaps later this eve when I see them in the dark again.
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I also just read via Cnet that if you start your cal out of cinema mode on warm you can get 6530 instead of 6420.

Thanks for the clarification though. I will see what I can get out of the settings tonight. I assumed that the color settings were like the red drive settings found in service menus.

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I also just read via Cnet that if you start your cal out of cinema mode on warm you can get 6530 instead of 6420.

Thanks for the clarification though. I will see what I can get out of the settings tonight. I assumed that the color settings were like the red drive settings found in service menus.

I do not believe that the white balance is any different. I believe that to be error in his testing.

the set uses the same white balance for all video setting modes. If I set a custom white balcne for warm. All modes. Cinema, Standard, Vivid, Custom. Use the same custom warm white balance.

Edit Just tested the modes and the image does not change at all with same serttings in cinema versus standard modes.

Perhaps the white balance on the set is even close than suspected.
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I've learned that garbled sound when it comes via the cable box can be fixed by clicking on the DVR's pause button and then the play button. To me that means the DVR is screwing with the sound...not the Sony. Good.

I have not had the "no picture but do have sound" problem in weeks. Good.

Does anyone else have trouble watching TNT? Some of the shows are really dark.
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