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Id anyone has seen my posts you will realise that I am in an unfortunate situation whereby my trusty Sony SXRD 60" XBR1 has finally died and therefore I need to find a replacement. What sucks is that this is on the cusp or in some cases before the 09' models are out.

I have been considering either the Panny 58" 800u Plasma or the new 09 Sony V5100. With the Sony being so new I cannot find any reviews or comments so I am posting this thread to see if anyone has got their hands on one of these units yet and get their feedback.

I really want to be as close (size wise) to what I have today but feel it is now cost prohibitive.

Any help is greatly appreciated

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not me lol! I dont know if it is released yet?
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Yep, in Best Buy stores now
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From last year's V series, the 5100 takes away Xcross media guide for advanced on screen guide. Adds Bravia2 engine, Motionflow w/120Hz, USB (Photo/music, 50,000/1 dynamic contrast, new design cabinet, one more HDMI, increased color control and more.

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we will check @ bestbuy then
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Here's some of DA POOP: The one I'd like is the KDL65W5100 (No date on this release) and the KDL40Z5100 for the bedroom.

http://hdguru.com/2009-hdtvs-shippin...ony-2009s/389/

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They kind of glossed over the V5100 vs current W, though they seem to be suggesting I should just pull the trigger on the W bargain and get it over with.
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I was hoping to find out whether this has the auto dim feature people have complained about on the older models.

BB here has the V4100 for $1699 and the W for $1899 just FYI
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i just bought one online today(52"), should be arriving in a wk or so, personally i would wait a bit longer for the w5100 but according to the link posted earlier that doesn't come out till july and i don't wanna hear the wife complain about not having a tv for 4 months
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Got mine in yesterday haven't had alot of time with it yet but sofar I'm a happy camper
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As soon as I can wrangle my camera from the wife
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I have one and am puzzeling over whether the TV Has HDCP. The user manual only says HDMI. Sharp and Toshiba specs say their HDMI ports Are HDCP compatible. No where can I find where SONY has HDMI/HDCP ports.
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I hope you are right. Where did you get the info?
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Unfortunately Sony lost a sale to me replacing my 40V4100 (moving it to the bedroom) and buying a new 46 or 52V5100 because they have deleted the option of VARIABLE or fixed audio out. Is now fixed output only. I use the VARIABLE audio output on my living room set to drive a Sony powered subwoofer to enhance the built-in speakers with some bass. Sounds quite good that way, and I don't have to run the AV receiver all day and night just to get a little bass. In the bedroom I use the VARIABLE audio out on an older Sony CRT set I was going to retire to drive a small 35 Watt stereo amp and a pair of small acoustic suspension speakers. Oh well maybe next year's models, or a different brand will offer that feature.
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I was hoping to find out whether this has the auto dim feature people have complained about on the older models.

Question #1: I'm also curious if the V5100 has the auto dim feature and/or if it can be enabled/disabled according to a user's preferences. Anyone know?

Question #2: Is there a "Game Mode", and if so, with it enabled are the picture settings still adjustable (brightness, contrast, etc)?
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Warning!!!! Auto dim problem is a MAJOR problem with the 5100 series.. maybe they will fix it with firmware, but who knows for sure, and how long you might have to suffer thru the auto dim "feature"

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Warning!!!! Auto dim problem is a MAJOR problem with the 5100 series.. maybe they will fix it with firmware, but who knows for sure, and how long you might have to suffer thru the auto dim "feature"

-JC

good price at dell
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Warning!!!! Auto dim problem is a MAJOR problem with the 5100 series.. maybe they will fix it with firmware, but who knows for sure, and how long you might have to suffer thru the auto dim "feature"

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On my V5100 I have not even noticed any auto dim.
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On my V5100 I have not even noticed any auto dim.

It will prolly happen you just have not made it happen yet.

if you wish to see this happen display something on the screen that is nearly completely black but has something that isnt black on it and i'm sure it will do it, pretty much all recent Sony's do it. its not a major problem if you have the TV setup correctly for what your doing and really only happens in movies with very dark scenes but even then backlit LCD's are bad with that sort of material anyways it comes with the territory though sony and samsung are the best with black levels

If you're a gamer or interested in using an LCD TV as a primary monitor take a look at my thread on Input Lag
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It will prolly happen you just have not made it happen yet.

if you wish to see this happen display something on the screen that is nearly completely black but has something that isnt black on it and i'm sure it will do it, pretty much all recent Sony's do it. its not a major problem if you have the TV setup correctly for what your doing and really only happens in movies with very dark scenes but even then backlit LCD's are bad with that sort of material anyways it comes with the territory though sony and samsung are the best with black levels

I will keep my eye out for it But I watched several movies with Dark scenes and have not noticed. I did calibrate it with Digital Video Essenstials Blue Ray and all Is well .So far I'm a happy camper .Love the Blacks on this set.
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I will keep my eye out for it But I watched several movies with Dark scenes and have not noticed. I did calibrate it with Digital Video Essenstials Blue Ray and all Is well .So far I'm a happy camper .Love the Blacks on this set.

I've done the same on my set and that is what i tell others that have the issue to do. when your TV's picture settings are TOO BRIGHT the software forces the backlight to dim to keep you from seeing a really bad blacklight washed picture imo.

If you're a gamer or interested in using an LCD TV as a primary monitor take a look at my thread on Input Lag
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Are people who think auto dim is not a big deal using HDMI port? I'm using HDMI and I literally can't watch a movie on this thing... The auto dim comes and goes constantly. My screen is calibrated, and I make my living as a broadcast television engineer, so i know my around video calibration.

I just can't figure out how people are not freaking out more over this auto dim thing.

I'm going to return mine as defective and get the Sammy 550 if I can.

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Is the "Adv. Contrast Enhancer" under the Picture menu causing the auto-dimming, or is it not an option that can be turned off?

I know my Panasonic projector has a similar "feature" that I promptly turned off. It would dim/brighten every single time I'd swing a sword in Oblivion.

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Is the "Adv. Contrast Enhancer" under the Picture menu causing the auto-dimming, or is it not an option that can be turned off?

I know my Panasonic projector has a similar "feature" that I promptly turned off. It would dim/brighten every single time I'd swing a sword in Oblivion.

i saw this TV @ sonystyle and thought had a bit better contrast than its predecessor
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Is the "Adv. Contrast Enhancer" under the Picture menu causing the auto-dimming, or is it not an option that can be turned off?

I know my Panasonic projector has a similar "feature" that I promptly turned off. It would dim/brighten every single time I'd swing a sword in Oblivion.

ACE has been known to effect the dimming on some peoples sony TV's its worth messing with to see if it helps normally turning it on helps more than off according to most people. on my 32xbr6 it does nothing to it.

game mode is also known to lessen the auto dim. this does do ALLOT to minimize it on my 32xbr6.

If you're a gamer or interested in using an LCD TV as a primary monitor take a look at my thread on Input Lag
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Is the "Adv. Contrast Enhancer" under the Picture menu causing the auto-dimming, or is it not an option that can be turned off?

I know my Panasonic projector has a similar "feature" that I promptly turned off. It would dim/brighten every single time I'd swing a sword in Oblivion.

The Advanced Contrast Enhancer (ACE) definitely does not fix the auto dim problem. There is currently no way to actually shut it off, and none of the menu settings have any real effect on it. Some people claim that game mode or custom settings or some other crazy combination will reduce the defect, but this is incontrovertibly false on my 46" 5100 S series. There is no user fix for this problem. Unless you limit yourself to watching romantic comedies and reality TV the auto dim will happen and unless you're blind it will annoy the #**@ out of you.

I have a service appointment on Thursday, so we'll see if the S dude has any secrets he might share that will allow me to keep my 5100

-JC

P.S. There is one verifiable way to stop auto dim.. Use the analog VGA (Computer Dsub 15p) input.
But I want HDMI!!!!!!
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The Advanced Contrast Enhancer (ACE) definitely does not fix the auto dim problem. There is currently no way to actually shut it off, and none of the menu settings have any real effect on it. Some people claim that game mode or custom settings or some other crazy combination will reduce the defect, but this is incontrovertibly false on my 46" 5100 S series. There is no user fix for this problem. Unless you limit yourself to watching romantic comedies and reality TV the auto dim will happen and unless you're blind it will annoy the #**@ out of you.

I have a service appointment on Thursday, so we'll see if the S dude has any secrets he might share that will allow me to keep my 5100

-JC

Out of curiosity, what are you watching? Name a few that set off the auto dim? Also, what are your settings for the TV? Post some calibration numbers. The reason I'm curius is that I have a 52W and I only see the auto dim kick in on the load of a PS3 BD screen where it is all black but for the white play arrow in the lower left corner. So either I'm not that sensitive to it, or it's not happening as often as it does to others.

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Why is it a big deal mine does it occasionaly it doesnt bother me a bit the picture quality of the sony and less glare then the samsung makes it worth it.
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I'm returning my Samsung 52A650 to Best Buy tonight. I'm tired of the flashlights. They have another in stock that I was debating exchanging for, but could have the same problem.

Then I saw the Sony 52V5100 and it has the same specs and is on sale. I was planning on getting that one instead. But this auto-dimming feature really has me thinking twice. Maybe I'll switch and if I don't like it I'll exchange it too.
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