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If possible can you do an input lag test on a Sony XBR-65X950B? I appreciate your hard work and continually updating your database for us.
It may be apples to oranges but Hdtvtest.co.uk tested the X9005 4k screen and got 41ms Leo Bodnar and 32ms the old fashioned way. Good but not nearly as fast as their Bravia 1080p sets! This seems to be the story of the 4k sets so far.
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I believe, without exception, all the 4K scaling that is happening in the current crop of sets out there introduces significant lag.

That Really Large River store has an LG 55" 4K that's within $200 of an LG 1080p set.........with the 4K set you get HDMI 2.0 and the new streaming codec to do 4K feeds from netflix, etc, you even get to watch BD 3D with passive glasses at full HD I believe......but forget gaming. Which is tragic when you're like me, and currently looking for a 55" set....because that LG4K would have found a home.


But you get terrible input lag

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I guess nobody still has any input lag results for the 50" 2014 Vizio E?
Would like to know what the numbers are when Local dimming is disabled in custom mode.
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It may be apples to oranges but Hdtvtest.co.uk tested the X9005 4k screen and got 41ms Leo Bodnar and 32ms the old fashioned way. Good but not nearly as fast as their Bravia 1080p sets! This seems to be the story of the 4k sets so far.
I saw that, it was kind of a relief to see since most other 4k sets have a much higher input lag. The Samsung UNxxHU9000 hasa 73ms input lag which is horrendous. I am coming from a Sony w900a 1080p set with a 17ms, seeing these higher numbers was making me a little nervous if 40ms would be noticeable or not.

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I saw that, it was kind of a relief to see since most other 4k sets have a much higher input lag. The Samsung UNxxHU9000 hasa 73ms input lag which is horrendous. I am coming from a Sony w900a 1080p set with a 17ms, seeing these higher numbers was making me a little nervous if 40ms would be noticeable or not.
Is the 17ms measured with a camera or the Leo Bodnar device?

Not sure if you'd notice it or not but it will always be in the back of your mind if you lose a game of CoD or fail a reversal in SF!
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I saw that, it was kind of a relief to see since most other 4k sets have a much higher input lag. The Samsung UNxxHU9000 hasa 73ms input lag which is horrendous. I am coming from a Sony w900a 1080p set with a 17ms, seeing these higher numbers was making me a little nervous if 40ms would be noticeable or not.
I've owned 2 16ms capable sets, another that was 32ms, then 34ms, another than was 46ms(terrible) and an LG that dipped over that(yikes!). I've done so many comparisons between these sets and my lag free CRT. :P There's even a noticeable difference between 16ms and 32ms, going to 40ms? No thanks...been there, done that. never again. :P it may be ok for some, but playing platformes in 40ms and up feel heavy, unintuitive, clunky and no where near as fun. My rule of thumb is 'hell no' to anything past 32ms/2 frames.

My last S60 even wasn't 'that' great....34ms, by no means bad. but expect your character to have a little more weight and slight sluggishness to them and this right here hampers the fun factor. You do adjust, but with me there's always that what if....what if i were playing on a lag free set or even a 16ms set. would i be having more fun and getting the experience/controls the developer originally intended? you bet!
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Is the 17ms measured with a camera or the Leo Bodnar device?

Not sure if you'd notice it or not but it will always be in the back of your mind if you lose a game of CoD or fail a reversal in SF!
I've given up this pursuit and just game with a BenQ gaming monitor now. I miss the picture, immersion and proper motion handling my plasma gave me but my back is thanking me for not slouching on the couch anymore.
Haha I hear you on that one, and yes it was tested with the Leo Bodnar device via displaylag.com as well as other sites.


The F8000 Samsung TV that I tried had terrible lag that was completely noticeable. I was playing GTA 5 and it made me just turn off my game. The Sony w900a is one of the best TV's regarding input lag and PQ, I wanted to make the 4k jump and the XBR-65x950b has been one the best PQ sets that I have seen, adding the fact that it has the lowest input lag of current 4k TVs it seems like a winner.


I unfortunately cannot do a dedicated gaming TV, just don't have the room for it. That's why I am trying to find a happy medium with a great 4k TV and a gaming TV as well. Sometimes its not only the lag through the TV but through the ISP as well (currently have Fios 75/35 speeds), I am just hoping 40ms will not be noticeable compared to the 17ms I am using now.

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Haha I hear you on that one, and yes it was tested with the Leo Bodnar device via displaylag.com as well as other sites.


The F8000 Samsung TV that I tried had terrible lag that was completely noticeable. I was playing GTA 5 and it made me just turn off my game. The Sony w900a is one of the best TV's regarding input lag and PQ, I wanted to make the 4k jump and the XBR-65x950b has been one the best PQ sets that I have seen, adding the fact that it has the lowest input lag of current 4k TVs it seems like a winner.


I unfortunately cannot do a dedicated gaming TV, just don't have the room for it. That's why I am trying to find a happy medium with a great 4k TV and a gaming TV as well. Sometimes its not only the lag through the TV but through the ISP as well (currently have Fios 75/35 speeds), I am just hoping 40ms will not be noticeable compared to the 17ms I am using now.
The panasonic AX800u is just as fast as the Sony.

Why not wait until the next generation of 4k sets? It's not like there's a lot to watch in 4k right now and the prices are ridiculous. It was the same thing with 3d just a few years ago-- you used to pay through the nose for a 3d equipped tv and now it's baked into every set practically for free.
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Haha I hear you on that one, and yes it was tested with the Leo Bodnar device via displaylag.com as well as other sites.


The F8000 Samsung TV that I tried had terrible lag that was completely noticeable. I was playing GTA 5 and it made me just turn off my game. The Sony w900a is one of the best TV's regarding input lag and PQ, I wanted to make the 4k jump and the XBR-65x950b has been one the best PQ sets that I have seen, adding the fact that it has the lowest input lag of current 4k TVs it seems like a winner.


I unfortunately cannot do a dedicated gaming TV, just don't have the room for it. That's why I am trying to find a happy medium with a great 4k TV and a gaming TV as well. Sometimes its not only the lag through the TV but through the ISP as well (currently have Fios 75/35 speeds), I am just hoping 40ms will not be noticeable compared to the 17ms I am using now.
Oh it will be noticeable.
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Oh it will be noticeable.
I play madden alot. I went from a low end samsung with like 54 ms to a sony with 23 ms. Sadly,ahuge difference. You cut on the drop of a dime
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I play madden alot. I went from a low end samsung with like 54 ms to a sony with 23 ms. Sadly,ahuge difference. You cut on the drop of a dime
Tell me about it. going from 16ms to 32ms is a big difference. And for motion based controls, you need every single MS you can get. :P
I'll finally have my Vizio 55" E(27ms) in a week or so now. coming from an S60(34ms), so the 7ms difference will be a nice welcome.

i couldn't imagine going back to a 50ms+ set....I had an LG plasma a few years back that tipped over that and i refused to game on it(instead i used it just for movies), everything felt slow, sluggish and broken. I'd hate to have to settle for ANY lag, especially over 1 frame/16ms, but it is what is is. Welcome to the wonderful laggy world of HD!
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Tell me about it. going from 16ms to 32ms is a big difference. And for motion based controls, you need every single MS you can get. :P
I'll finally have my Vizio 55" E(27ms) in a week or so now. coming from an S60(34ms), so the 7ms difference will be a nice welcome.

i couldn't imagine going back to a 50ms+ set....I had an LG plasma a few years back that tipped over that and i refused to game on it(instead i used it just for movies), everything felt slow, sluggish and broken. I'd hate to have to settle for ANY lag, especially over 1 frame/16ms, but it is what is is. Welcome to the wonderful laggy world of HD!

that is the only thing stopping me from the samsung 7150. that picture blew me away in the store
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that is the only thing stopping me from the samsung 7150. that picture blew me away in the store
Seems like all the high end great looking sets get screwed over with high input lag unless you're a Sony LED. :P Take the samsung 8500 plasma for example.
I always have to settle for these damn entry models. Less processing, less lag. Still, the step up '1080p' vizio M isn't that much better than the E series, so i'm not too annoyed. The Vizio P would be more ideal but it's 4k(which i don't need, heck i don't even need 1080p considering the distance i'm at haha) and like every single 4k HDTV review i'm sure it will have high input lag.
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Seems like all the high end great looking sets get screwed over with high input lag unless you're a Sony LED. :P Take the samsung 8500 plasma for example.
I always have to settle for these damn entry models. Less processing, less lag. Still, the step up '1080p' vizio M isn't that much better than the E series, so i'm not too annoyed. The Vizio P would be more ideal but it's 4k(which i don't need, heck i don't even need 1080p considering the distance i'm at haha) and like every single 4k HDTV review i'm sure it will have high input lag.

Exactly,its highly annoying. The sony 950b has only 17 but its so blah, and the impulse mode is pointless cause its so dark
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Seems like all the high end great looking sets get screwed over with high input lag unless you're a Sony LED. :P Take the samsung 8500 plasma for example.
I always have to settle for these damn entry models. Less processing, less lag. Still, the step up '1080p' vizio M isn't that much better than the E series, so i'm not too annoyed. The Vizio P would be more ideal but it's 4k(which i don't need, heck i don't even need 1080p considering the distance i'm at haha) and like every single 4k HDTV review i'm sure it will have high input lag.
There is some truth to that: my Panasonic 50" S30 plasma is an absolute beast for games but the picture is so so compared to my 55" VT60 which has an awe inspiring picture but more lag in games.

Not that it matters anymore as I've moved all my gaming over to my desk and my BenQ 2455 gaming monitor. Not a big fan of the picture quality and the 'overdrive' method BenQ uses to compensate for LCD's inherent motion handling issues but the monitor is as lag free as you can get these days and the price was right.

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Hoping this is the right thread to post in. Need some advice on two sets for gaming / watching sports.

55" x900a and 60" F8000.

I took delivery of the 55" x900a, but I'm seeing quite a bit of blur when playing FIFA 14 on ps3 in game mode.

1) Is this due to the native 120hz panel as opposed to a 240hz like on the W900a and F8000?

2) Would the F8000 be better for gaming (though it seems it has a higher input lag) and sports (comcast has ESPN in 720p only)?

In terms of price, the F8000 would be $100 cheaper. Have about 2.5 weeks to decide between the two TVs.
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One advantage I have found with my 4k Sieki, is making custom resolutions. So I use all that bandwidth to make a resolution like 2560X1440p @72hz or 1920X1080p @120 hz. So in my case I have a 39in true 120hz gaming monitor or 2K@72hz. This makes for an exceptional gaming screen with very little lag, it is ultra smooth. As far as I know there are no gaming monitors this size that do true 120hz. And of course you can go even bigger.

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Hoping this is the right thread to post in. Need some advice on two sets for gaming / watching sports.

55" x900a and 60" F8000.

I took delivery of the 55" x900a, but I'm seeing quite a bit of blur when playing FIFA 14 on ps3 in game mode.

1) Is this due to the native 120hz panel as opposed to a 240hz like on the W900a and F8000?

2) Would the F8000 be better for gaming (though it seems it has a higher input lag) and sports (comcast has ESPN in 720p only)?

In terms of price, the F8000 would be $100 cheaper. Have about 2.5 weeks to decide between the two TVs.
From the research i read 4k tv has alot more lag than the 1080. Games only run at 60 fps. 120 should keep up with that. Im no expert but thats the info i gathered.
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From the research i read 4k tv has alot more lag than the 1080. Games only run at 60 fps. 120 should keep up with that. Im no expert but thats the info i gathered.
Why would that be the case? Yes, actual 4k source would be slow (some units only do 30fps). However, the amount of power required to process 4K input should allow for LESS input lag on 1080/720 sources. Shouldn't it? I think some manufacturers just don't give a **** about gaming and input lag. It's not that they can't make them fast, but more that they don't want to. These things can handle all these stupid smart features, apps, etc. but they can't show games without nasty input lag? I call ********.
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Why would that be the case? Yes, actual 4k source would be slow (some units only do 30fps). However, the amount of power required to process 4K input should allow for LESS input lag on 1080/720 sources. Shouldn't it? I think some manufacturers just don't give a **** about gaming and input lag. It's not that they can't make them fast, but more that they don't want to. These things can handle all these stupid smart features, apps, etc. but they can't show games without nasty input lag? I call ********.
No because video games only run in 1080p and 720. So thv has to consantly scale down. This years non 4k sonys have great input lag ratings compared to 4k. Last years non 4 k sonys were pretty damn good too.


Although, when and if all video games switch to 4k, the 4k would probably be lower?im with you tho viper,no clue why it cant be low. I was reading that info from some of these sites talked about here.

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Does anyone know anything about Sony's new KDL60W630B ? Thinking about getting it but I'm worried about the input lag.
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Does anyone know anything about Sony's new KDL60W630B ? Thinking about getting it but I'm worried about the input lag.
Curious about the same thing as I'm looking for a 60 inch mostly for gaming and was eyeing the KDL60W630B ... would love any feedback on that! (or other recommendations for 60 in LED under $1400- preferably around $1000 - that's good for gaming)
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Curious about the same thing as I'm looking for a 60 inch mostly for gaming and was eyeing the KDL60W630B ... would love any feedback on that! (or other recommendations for 60 in LED under $1400- preferably around $1000 - that's good for gaming)
The 60w850b is great for gaming or the 55w800b is cheaper and great
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Samsung UE65F9000 with the 2014 SEK-2500U evolution kit, firmware version 1150.6. PC-named input, measured at 62ms with the Leo Bodnar lag tester. This is down from the previously measured 73ms with the HU8500, so appear to be a firmware improvement. Can anyone confirm?

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The 60w850b is great for gaming or the 55w800b is cheaper and great
850b was my first choice but around where I live it went from $1450 (would pay) to $1600. I can't see 3D so I just couldn't justify the price. The 800b kind of suffers from the same thing. It's around the same price as the KDL60W630B , but once again, it has 3D and I have no use for it. Would rather get an extra 5" since it' basically the same price. Thanks for your input though. Still might look into the 800b. Do you think it's a huge gamble going for the 630B 60"? It seems like most if not all larger Sony TV's from the 2014 line have solid input lag.

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850b was my first choice but around where I live it went from $1450 (would pay) to $1600. I can't see 3D so I just couldn't justify the price. The 800b kind of suffers from the same thing. It's around the same price as the KDL60W630B , but once again, it has 3D and I have no use for it. Would rather get an extra 5" since it' basically the same price. Thanks for your input though. Still might look into the 800b. Do you think it's a huge gamble going for the 630B 60"? It seems like most if not all larger Sony TV's from the 2014 line have solid input lag.
I tried looking it up for you but nothing on it yet. The specs look pretty good. It has to have descent input lag tho. All non 4k sonys semm too
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