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post #121 of 4282 Old 11-26-2009, 09:16 PM
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wonder if they can test input lag on the UN55B8500 love the picture quality in this set

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post17579784

133 ms movie mode, and 67 ms in game mode.
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omg, well most of the people dont mind lag,i watch blu-ray movies but i game a lot too, oh well
still for me is too much input lag
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ı am looking for a 32" FULL HD (1920*1080P) lcd tv with NO İNPUT

LAG problem.will use it possibly for PC or / and PS3.. tanks ???????
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post17579784

133 ms movie mode, and 67 ms in game mode.

I had seen the PQ from this set earlier and I had placed it on my short list (It REALLY jumped out to me and the people I was with at the store)...I guess it's time to take it off...
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ı am looking for a 32" FULL HD (1920*1080P) lcd tv with NO İNPUT

LAG problem.will use it possibly for PC or / and PS3.. tanks ???????

You won't find an LCD set of that size that has no lag. At least none have been found at this time, that I know of.
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wonder if they can test input lag on the UN55B8500 love the picture quality in this set

Check on of the 8500 threads -- someone already tested and posted
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My memory is going so maybe I have forgotten since its been 5yrs

But, I thought, at the time of the XBox360 launch Microsoft and Sammy got together and advertised that gaming and Sammy TVs was optimized.

I could of sworn they made a big deal on DLP being gaming optimized.

I guess they were wrong.

Seems that there would be more emphasis on game optimized models given how big gaming happens to be.

Has anyone tried using an LCD monitor (not TV) for gaming since many support HDMI as input now and many of those monitors claim 5ms or less response time. Also, some monitors can be up to 30 inches now.
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So does anyone have a comprehensive list of different TVs with their tested input lag? I have seen several different threads with input lag information, but nothing comparing several sets.
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So does anyone have a comprehensive list of different TVs with their tested input lag? I have seen several different threads with input lag information, but nothing comparing several sets.

I also would just like to know what 46 inch LCD to buy as well. I'd like to get at least 120Hz set for watching sports that has a SOLID reduction in input lag when in game mode. Can someone help me? 60% rockband/COD2 40% watching football and dvds.

From what I've read I should go with Sharp or LG but everyone keeps recommending 60hz boxes which I think will be not as good as alittle processing you find in 120Hz boxes to make sports look better.

Can I get a couple of model numbers to view at my local BBuy store and pick from?
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Panasonic 32" LZ800 HDMI (unknown resolution looks like 720P in photos)

That pic is actually in 480i

Here some better picture quality

1080P standard




1080P game mode




480i




youtube video for confirmation under both resolution vs real time.


I hope there's enough reference. The LZ800 is a 1080P panel.
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I have a LN40B650, is it just me or is "DVI PC" slower than DVI w/ Game Mode by a smidge. What I don't get if this is true is that there are less changeable options in DVI PC than in DVI w/ gamemode. Arent those extra settings just extra layers of processing? If they are then why does game mode seem a very very small bit faster? BTW I'm referencing my over feel from CS Source and I've played CS since about 99. (not bragging just giving background)
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Input Lag Time LN52B630
Display:Samsung LN52B630 and 17inch CRT monitor
I was running my pc with a millisecond clock in clone mode. MSI 9400GT video card with HDMI,VGA,DVI. I was using a Canon A570Is camera. I found I had to use a 125 second exposure (ASA800) to get the picture. With a higher shutter speed (500) the CRT monitor displayed a moving black bar which usually covered the clock.

AMP set to Off,Dynamic Contrast set to Off
Input lag times:

VGA 60 to 70 ms
HDMI1 DVI 100ms
HDMI1 DVI game mode 60ms



Am I doing something wrong with my measuring methods? The 60ms time in VGA seems rather bad. Does the 52 inch size give greater lag times than a 46 inch size display? I could see the lag just by grabbing a window and moving it. It appears the B630 is no A630 when it comes to lag times.
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Input Lag Time LN52B630
Display:Samsung LN52B630 and 17inch CRT monitor
I was running my pc with a millisecond clock in clone mode. MSI 9400GT video card with HDMI,VGA,DVI. I was using a Canon A570Is camera. I found I had to use a 125 second exposure (ASA800) to get the picture. With a higher shutter speed (500) the CRT monitor displayed a moving black bar which usually covered the clock.

AMP set to Off,Dynamic Contrast set to Off
Input lag times:

VGA 60 to 70 ms
HDMI1 DVI 100ms
HDMI1 DVI game mode 60ms



Am I doing something wrong with my measuring methods? The 60ms time in VGA seems rather bad. Does the 52 inch size give greater lag times than a 46 inch size display? I could see the lag just by grabbing a window and moving it. It appears the B630 is no A630 when it comes to lag times.

no, looks pretty standard for current samsung TV's they have some of the worst lag of all TV's sold today

if you could post up some pictures that would be great and i will add your results to the 1st post

If you're a gamer or interested in using an LCD TV as a primary monitor take a look at my thread on Input Lag
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I tested two CRTs against each other to see if there was any lag time. ONe Crt is 17 and the other a 19.
Video Card MSI 9400gt with HDMI,VGA and DVI. Passive cooling.

My testing revealed that the DVI CRT lagged by 7 to 22ms in 1 out of 3 or 1 out of 5 tries approximately. When there was no lag the times were the same.
This would explain the erratic readings I have gotten.
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Lag times LN52B630
They seem to be averaging between 42 and 60ms approximately. MSI 9400gt passive cooling video card,HDMI ,VGA,DVI.
Times recorded with TV connected to VGA. CRT connected to DVI
Canon 5700IS set to 1/60

Question: What 46 and larger tvs have lag times below 32 ms? Samsung A650 is one.
"LG 42LH30 panel has around 32ms input lag time - the same as an LZ800/85" -KVM



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Input Lag Time LN52B630
Display:Samsung LN52B630 and 17inch CRT monitor
I was running my pc with a millisecond clock in clone mode. MSI 9400GT video card with HDMI,VGA,DVI. I was using a Canon A570Is camera. I found I had to use a 125 second exposure (ASA800) to get the picture. With a higher shutter speed (500) the CRT monitor displayed a moving black bar which usually covered the clock.

AMP set to Off,Dynamic Contrast set to Off
Input lag times:

VGA 60 to 70 ms
HDMI1 DVI 100ms
HDMI1 DVI game mode 60ms

Am I doing something wrong with my measuring methods? The 60ms time in VGA seems rather bad. Does the 52 inch size give greater lag times than a 46 inch size display? I could see the lag just by grabbing a window and moving it. It appears the B630 is no A630 when it comes to lag times.

Can you try doing one with HDMI1 renamed as "PC"?
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Can you try doing one with HDMI1 renamed as "PC"?

There is no logical reason that I know of for it to be any faster than VGA. The CRT is not hooked up now.
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There is no logical reason that I know of for it to be any faster than VGA. The CRT is not hooked up now.

its not going to be according to tests other people have also done on the B series samsungs

If you're a gamer or interested in using an LCD TV as a primary monitor take a look at my thread on Input Lag
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updated OP with new results on the samsung B630 and Panny LZ800 thanks to Mr Deap and rokybird

I also added links to each of the summarized results that will take you straight to the post with the pictures from each user that contributed them

theres got to be more people willing to run these tests on say some LG and sharp models as well as the newer sony TV's because we are lacking them and many other brand's as well like Vizio and Toshiba

If you're a gamer or interested in using an LCD TV as a primary monitor take a look at my thread on Input Lag
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I wish someone would do some solid tests on Sony LCDs. I'm about to pull the trigger on a 40 inch Sony XBR9. Any info would be appreciated.
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I wish someone would do some solid tests on Sony LCDs. I'm about to pull the trigger on a 40 inch Sony XBR9. Any info would be appreciated.

its going to have very similar lag to my 32XBR6, i would expect at the minimum 40-50ms input lag in game mode

i've seen lots of tests done on various 08-09 sony's and by and far they all seem to lag about the same, the XBR8 is the only one i've seen that may beat this wall sony's tend to have and anyone will tell you that TV is very different from pretty much all the sets sony has made in the past 2 years by a long shot, their 08-09 sets are all very similar in design and construction and just differ by small features for the most part

if you do get an XBR9 by all means test it and post up the results, i've yet to see anyone test it or a W/Z5100

If you're a gamer or interested in using an LCD TV as a primary monitor take a look at my thread on Input Lag
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cross posting HidefLoans test post from the Panasonic 32 S1 thread

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I ran some new input lag tests:

the TC-L32S1 is running at native res, while the CRT is too, but the whole desktop does not fit in its max res so only a portion of the cloned screen is visible on the CRT.

Game Mode:
Best result 0 ms, Worst Result 32ms


Standard Mode (motion focus off):
Best result 0 ms, Worst Result 32 ms

The most usual result is 16ms for both modes.

Some results from Game Mode:







Some results from Standard Mode:








Other findings on usign this tv as a monitor:

Darker colored text works ok, however lighter colored text just does not look very sharp on this TV, no matter what setting. I still have not ventured into changing service menu values to see if this can be improved more than I have with the menu settings. Lowering saturation is the only way to somewhat improve fuzzy red text, but you can't entirly fix the problem. With small text I noticed a pale orange, muddy pink, oversaturated green, blue, and light blue text colors. Basically, almost every small light colored font will not look good with the TV, and I think this is probably a problem with the size of the pixels more than anything else. It is a TV not meant to work as monitor.

For games it is very very good. Motion Focus on this set is backlight scanning at a normal 60hz refresh rate. It only helps with slight slow movements across the screen, as fast movements will still produce more visible regular LCD blurring. Since it adds a slight flicker to the image, it can only be used while objects are moving on the screen (gaming, video), otherwise this flicker is bothersome when using an operating system.

I might give it a couple weeks before deciding if I will keep it, as for now I don't think it can really replace a regular monitor as a pc display. The muddy or blurry small colored text thing does bother me, and I don't think any 32 inch TV is going to be good in displaying small colored text unless you sit at least 4 feet away from it to combat the blurry effect (but not the muddy color effect).

I know this Set is pretty much the only good low input lag 32 inch tv at the moment. I feel like the size is nice, but I could do ok with something a little smaller, maybe around 26 inches. An actual pc monitor but still 1080p native. We'll see. For the moment I'll keep trying it out, because it is awesome for games, just not the best monitor for pc work.


If you're a gamer or interested in using an LCD TV as a primary monitor take a look at my thread on Input Lag
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Could we assume all Panasonics are S-IPS and therefore, low lag?

Best Buy has a 42" Panny on sale for 699. Pretty sure its IPS as the viewing angle specs (178/178) match.

Thinking of grabbing it.

I just bought a Phillips 42PFL3704D from target. When testing with Rock Band 2's auto lag test, it is showing 50-60 ms lag (there is no game mode on this set). Not the worst, but not the best either.

I'd hate to get the Panny, test it, and find out it's lag is no better, or even worse, and have to return it though. Returning such large LCD's is a chore.

I wish everybody would use the Rock Band 2 test, it seems by far the best to me, it gives a raw ms number to work with. None of this trying to figure out fuzzy timer pictures that often have great discrepancies crap, and none of this converting to frames stuff that makes things even less precise. The RB2 test will give different values on different runs, but only by a few ms, and it's easy to run multiple tests and get a average or range.

BTW, I'm specifically referring to the RB2 automatic test using the sensor on the guitar, not the manual tests in RB2/GH which are terribly inaccurate as it's too easy to "time" them subconsciously.

Heck I bought the game and guitar just to test, and am planning on returning the guitar and selling the disc back used to Gamestop to recoup most of my costs when my tests are done.
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I got a 46V5100 and noticed the lag pretty much right away, especially in New Super Mario (Wii 480p via Component). I turned on "Game Mode" and its better but it still feels a bit off sometimes unless I'm fooling myself or something. I have a sound receiver connected also. Before I used a older LCD that had about 30 ms so hopefully I will adjust. I used the RB2 test (Xbox 360 1080p via HDMI)

Game Mode Off: 80ish ms
Game Mode On: High 40's, Low 50's ms

That's about 3 frames in Game Mode? Do other people with V5100s get about that?
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I am torn between LN52B750 or the UN46B6000 (LED)

I want one that has less input lag...Which should I go for between these 2
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Could we assume all Panasonics are S-IPS and therefore, low lag?

Best Buy has a 42" Panny on sale for 699. Pretty sure its IPS as the viewing angle specs (178/178) match.

Thinking of grabbing it.

I just bought a Phillips 42PFL3704D from target. When testing with Rock Band 2's auto lag test, it is showing 50-60 ms lag (there is no game mode on this set). Not the worst, but not the best either.

I'd hate to get the Panny, test it, and find out it's lag is no better, or even worse, and have to return it though. Returning such large LCD's is a chore.

I wish everybody would use the Rock Band 2 test, it seems by far the best to me, it gives a raw ms number to work with. None of this trying to figure out fuzzy timer pictures that often have great discrepancies crap, and none of this converting to frames stuff that makes things even less precise. The RB2 test will give different values on different runs, but only by a few ms, and it's easy to run multiple tests and get a average or range.

BTW, I'm specifically referring to the RB2 automatic test using the sensor on the guitar, not the manual tests in RB2/GH which are terribly inaccurate as it's too easy to "time" them subconsciously.

Heck I bought the game and guitar just to test, and am planning on returning the guitar and selling the disc back used to Gamestop to recoup most of my costs when my tests are done.

MOST panny LCD's use IPS panels are very fast, i've yet to see a panny LCD that was laggy so they are a good choice

as I could not find a 37" S1 locally (sears let me down by saying they had 3 in stock but did not) I found myself at a best buy last night trying to decide between a Panny 42" C12 that appeared to be a VA screen to me (pixel structure was a V shape turned sideways IPS are I shaped pixels, you can see this if you look at the screen very closely with your eyes

so i was like damn, well i've always heard Toshiba had low lag in game mode (30ms) range and it was down to that 42" panny or a Toshiba 40" xv645u

I was almost set on the panny just based on its a panny and it should be nearly lag free but i could not help but notice that the toshiba had a better picture (yes i took them both out of store modes etc.) and the toshiba was 120hz to boot at the same price point of 700 so it was a tough decision but i decided to gamble on the toshy figuring at worst its going to lag like my Sony 32XBR6 it was replacing and at best it would be faster plus i was gaining 120hz and 8" of screen

mind you this is a PC monitor/bedroom TV and I am sitting 2-3 feet from it when at the desk so even going as big as a 40" is pushing it a bit but there are just no good choices in the 37" size that local stores carry

anyways without further a due the next post is my results from doing a quick input lag test on the Toshiba

If you're a gamer or interested in using an LCD TV as a primary monitor take a look at my thread on Input Lag
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Toshiba 40xv645u 120hz
1080p Game mode on VS Viewsonic 22" TN panel (tested and has negligible input lag of a few ms at most)

27ms input lag on Average
out of 11 pictures
Best 20ms
Worst 34ms

not bad!!! a definate improvement over my Sony 32XBR6 that averaged 47ms and never got below 32ms ever in many more tests

and now for the photos











there are more but that should be plenty you can visit my photobucket if you would like to see the rest

overall i'm extremely happy with the Toshiba 40xv645u, picture quality is at least on par with the 32xbr6 if not better in other areas and use as a PC monitor is in fact better, almost no adjustment is needed for the desktop and all text even REDS! are sharp and clear

this Toshiba is definitely a winner for gamers, its not lag free but you can get the best of both worlds in having a decent 120hz set for movies and TV along with good response speed for gaming. a pretty good compromise considering that the majority of 120hz sets out today will be 1.5x to 2x more laggy than this display in game modes from what i've seen and read

If you're a gamer or interested in using an LCD TV as a primary monitor take a look at my thread on Input Lag
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frito,
Im looking at buying a 1080p LCD monitor (around 23"), do you have any suggestions that have little to no lag?
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frito,
Im looking at buying a 1080p LCD monitor (around 23"), do you have any suggestions that have little to no lag?

for a PC i'm guessing?

Get any TN panel, good luck finding a native 1080p one at that size though

If you're a gamer or interested in using an LCD TV as a primary monitor take a look at my thread on Input Lag
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frito,
Im looking at buying a 1080p LCD monitor (around 23"), do you have any suggestions that have little to no lag?

I recently bought the best Samsung monitor which is an LED set

got it at best buy and the model number is XL2370

Full 1080P and no lag at all with 2ms response time

one hdmi and dvi and audio output

thin as a hair to
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