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Anyone have any good settings for DirecTV?

I've been looking for good settings for the longest time now.
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Anyone have any good settings for DirecTV?

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I've been looking for good settings for the longest time now.


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Thanks, but I'm confused.
I am looking for DirecTV settings for this TV.
The only settings I've seen are from CNET, but those are for Blu-ray and it comes out way too dark.
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Thanks, but I'm confused.
I am looking for DirecTV settings for this TV.
The only settings I've seen are from CNET, but those are for Blu-ray and it comes out way too dark.

I just got the 47LH30 from FRY's super sale yesterday. Looks very good in the first try. I played around with the settings for a while. Here is my current setting for watching Over-The-Air HDTV. They looks very nice. I don't have the Direct TV, not sure how good this setting for directTV. You are right, the CNET setting is not good for OTA HDTV program.

Picture menu:
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Energy Saving: Off
Picture Mode: Standard (User)
Backlight: 70
Contrast: 90 (or 83)
Brightness: 42
Sharpness: 53
Color: 60
Tint: G1

--Expert control menu
Dynamic contrast: low
Dynamic color: low
Noise reduction: Off
Gamma: Medium
Black level: Auto (gray out)
Real Cinema: On
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancer: Off
OPC: Off
White balance: Medium
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I think there are enough discussions in this thread for this TV as PC monitor. Now I really like to see more people jumping in for more discussions of this TV as a normal HDTV for TV program watch, sport watch, DVD and BluRay movie watch, as well as quality for SD sources. Anyway, this is more a HDTV than a monitor, right?
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I think there are enough discussions in this thread for this TV as PC monitor. Now I really like to see more people jumping in for more discussions of this TV as a normal HDTV for TV program watch, sport watch, DVD and BluRay movie watch, as well as quality for SD sources. Anyway, this is more a HDTV than a monitor, right?

Demanding reviews will not get you what you want.
As far as your monitor/tv statement, the use of the set is whatever the purchaser wants it to be.
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Thanks for your great review on the LG xxLH30 series. I'm about to purchase a 42LH30 for *price redacted* (below seven hundred) and was wondering if this is still the best choice for low input lag in an LCD HDTV.

I plan on using it for my PC's main monitor and am hoping it will have accurate colors for some photo editing + calibration. I have an iDisplay 2 colorimeter also.

Would you still choose this display if you were buying right now?
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Thanks, but I'm confused.
I am looking for DirecTV settings for this TV.
The only settings I've seen are from CNET, but those are for Blu-ray and it comes out way too dark.

If you have HDNet, they broadcast a test pattern every Saturday morning at 6AM EST. If you have color filters like the ones that come with Avia, it is even more useful. If not, there is a brightness/contrast pattern that will help out a lot.

Another thing to note is that TV stations vary widely, so settings for one channel may not be good for another.
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Anyway, this is more a HDTV than a monitor, right?

These are all televisions first and foremost. The PC monitor function is secondary.
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If you have HDNet, they broadcast a test pattern every Saturday morning at 6AM EST. If you have color filters like the ones that come with Avia, it is even more useful. If not, there is a brightness/contrast pattern that will help out a lot.

Another thing to note is that TV stations vary widely, so settings for one channel may not be good for another.


Not to mention the size, lighting and coloring of the room you're using it in.
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I pulled the trigger and bought a 42LH30. The low latency is very nice. Though the blacks leave something to be desired. I calibrated it with an iDisplay 2.

One thing I noticed during calibration was that the Expert controls for RGBYCM don't change the output enough to register during calibration. I was pretty much left without the ability to fine tune the white balance. This might just be a limitation of the iDisplay2 and its software. I've heard it has trouble with wide gamut displays.

I'll try later with HCFR and give GamutVision a go.
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I wanted to touch on something that was posted earlier in the thread regarding the possibility of a panel "lottery" similar to some of Samsungs sets.

I have two 32lh30s. One with a build date of March 2009 and the most recent, August 2009. The blacks are without a doubt deeper, however, the picture in general is better on the older set. I have noticed some ghosting and motion blur on the newer unit which is not experienced previously. I also noticed that the picture looks a bit grainy compared to the older unit.

I am quite disappointed by this, as I was expecting the same level of quality with this newest purchase.

Its unfortunate that OneCall does not accept returns on sets larger than 20". I wish I would have caught that before purchasing as I wouldn't had even considered buying from them.
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anyone else noticing motion blur on this set??
just picked it up yesterday and everything looks great except the motion blur is really bad(worse than my 7 year old Sammy LCD??and any other set I have seen)

I can't imagine its supposed to look like this??
Is there some setting I am missing or does this model suffer from motion blur?
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anyone else noticing motion blur on this set??
just picked it up yesterday and everything looks great except the motion blur is really bad(worse than my 7 year old Sammy LCD??and any other set I have seen)

I can't imagine its supposed to look like this??
Is there some setting I am missing or does this model suffer from motion blur?

I just got mine yesterday also, I haven't noticed any motion blur. I'm using it mainly as a PC monitor for gaming.

Under what situation do you experience the motion blur?

Once calibrated it looks really nice.
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using mine for gaming..


I tried Open Season Blu Ray and motion blur was everywhere. Then hooked up an Xbox 360 and played several games. The bluring is bad(so bad I think something is wrong with the set, as both my older Sammy LCD's are miles better), and I am assuming there is some "motion" setting in the tv but I can't find any. Been playing with it for two days now and still noticing bluring

If I can't fix it, its going back..
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What is the build date of both your TVs?

If there is a panel lottery as Odysseus18 suggests, I suspect LG have simply switched the entire range to a cheaper panel, rather that using multiple sources as Samsung do.
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What is the build date of both your TVs?

If there is a panel lottery as Odysseus18 suggests, I suspect LG have simply switched the entire range to a cheaper panel, rather that using multiple sources as Samsung do.

Mine was built in September 2009
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The H30 is a 60hz set so I guess I'll be looking soley at the H40 sets with the 120hz output from here on out. I guess it's worth the extra Benny.

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I wanted to touch on something that was posted earlier in the thread regarding the possibility of a panel "lottery" similar to some of Samsungs sets.

I have two 32lh30s. One with a build date of March 2009 and the most recent, August 2009. The blacks are without a doubt deeper, however, the picture in general is better on the older set. I have noticed some ghosting and motion blur on the newer unit which is not experienced previously. I also noticed that the picture looks a bit grainy compared to the older unit.

I am quite disappointed by this, as I was expecting the same level of quality with this newest purchase.

Its unfortunate that OneCall does not accept returns on sets larger than 20". I wish I would have caught that before purchasing as I wouldn't had even considered buying from them.


hmmmm


mine date is Sept 2009

I can't get my head around the bluring though, my 7 year old Sammy should not handle motion better than this set does. Maybe a cheap panel??
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using mine for gaming..


I tried Open Season Blu Ray and motion blur was everywhere. Then hooked up an Xbox 360 and played several games. The bluring is bad(so bad I think something is wrong with the set, as both my older Sammy LCD's are miles better), and I am assuming there is some "motion" setting in the tv but I can't find any. Been playing with it for two days now and still noticing bluring

If I can't fix it, its going back..

This is exactly what I am experiencing. Both in gaming and movie watching.

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What is the build date of both your TVs?

If there is a panel lottery as Odysseus18 suggests, I suspect LG have simply switched the entire range to a cheaper panel, rather that using multiple sources as Samsung do.

If true, LG is going right back in the hole they dug themselves in. I am more than satisfied with the older unit, I just can't believe they would switch panels with such a great TV.


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hmmmm


mine date is Sept 2009

I can't get my head around the bluring though, my 7 year old Sammy should not handle motion better than this set does. Maybe a cheap panel??

Im not certain if it was here or on another forum, but I believe some noticed the change with sets manufactured in May/June. Possibly earlier
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I just got done with a long session of Team Fortress 2.

I experienced no blurring with my 42LH30. The response time is very good on this set, I can't even tell there's any lag... I used to game on a Sony FW-900 CRT which I still have, so I do have some experience with what a good monitor can do.

I'm really liking this 42LH30.
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I just got done with a long session of Team Fortress 2.

I experienced no blurring with my 42LH30. The response time is very good on this set, I can't even tell there's any lag... I used to game on a Sony FW-900 CRT which I still have, so I do have some experience with what a good monitor can do.

I'm really liking this 42LH30.

Maybe it's just luck of the draw then. Just make sure you buy from a store with a decent returns process.

I'm still gaming on a Sony FW900, so a glowing report from an ex-user seals the deal tbh
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I just got done with a long session of Team Fortress 2.

I experienced no blurring with my 42LH30. The response time is very good on this set, I can't even tell there's any lag... I used to game on a Sony FW-900 CRT which I still have, so I do have some experience with what a good monitor can do.

I'm really liking this 42LH30.

Is this your first HDTV?
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Can you explain what type of blurring you are experiencing?

I notice a choppy/blurring effect on my 42LH30 in scenes where the camera is panning from right-left over a large view (ie: like a helicopter overlooking a large section of land.) It reminds me of the effect you would see from having a very low frame rate where the frames actually seem to skip. I'm not sure if this is an artifact from cable tv compression or an issue with the actual television though. I've only had one DVD to test on it so I haven't determined the source of it yet.
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I just got the 47LH30 from FRY's super sale yesterday. Looks very good in the first try. I played around with the settings for a while. Here is my current setting for watching Over-The-Air HDTV. They looks very nice. I don't have the Direct TV, not sure how good this setting for directTV. You are right, the CNET setting is not good for OTA HDTV program.

Picture menu:
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Energy Saving: Off
Picture Mode: Standard (User)
Backlight: 70
Contrast: 90 (or 83)
Brightness: 42
Sharpness: 53
Color: 60
Tint: G1

--Expert control menu
Dynamic contrast: low
Dynamic color: low
Noise reduction: Off
Gamma: Medium
Black level: Auto (gray out)
Real Cinema: On
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancer: Off
OPC: Off
White balance: Medium

Thanks, I will try these settings
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Is this your first HDTV?

No, this is my 5th HDTV purchase. I'm hardly using this 42LH30 for HDTV viewing, it's mainly a PC display that will serve for gaming and viewing the odd movie output by the PC.

I've had a Samsung HLN5065W (DLP), LG 30FZ4D (CRT), Mitsubishi HD-1000u (DLP projector), Panasonic AE-3000u (3 LCD projector), and now this 42LH30.

I've held off on buying anything LCD for a long time, I couldn't get past the slow response times of LCDs in general, or the unnatural color reproduction. There are still a few more faults with current LCDs, but it's progressed to the point that it's tolerable for me now.

I'm waiting for Sharp to get those LCDs with UV2A technology out. LCDs might finally reach perfection if they can have even faster response times, better control of the twisted-nematics to produce accurate color, and finally have excellent blacks. *crossing my fingers* that other companies will find similar ways to duplicate what Sharp says it will do.
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Here are my settings after calibration with an X-Rite iDisplay 2:

Aspect Ratio: Just Scan
Backlight: 29
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 2
H Sharpness: 50
V Sharpness 50
Color 50
Tint 0


Expert Control Settings:
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Noise Reduction: Off
Gamma: Medium
Black Level: High
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancer: Off
White Balance: Warm
Method: 10 point IRE
IRE: 100
Luminance: 120
Red: 0
Green: 0
Blue: 0
Color Management System is all set to 0

This gave me the following CIE Chart:
The points with the + signs are the 42LH30's measured ranges against sRGB.






I no longer have this set, I exchanged it for the same model, and it calibrated differently. I'm posting the new settings later on in this thread.
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No, this is my 5th HDTV purchase. I'm hardly using this 42LH30 for HDTV viewing, it's mainly a PC display that will serve for gaming and viewing the odd movie output by the PC.


Well, then its looking like LG could be using different panels in their current production.

I'm in the process of selling my unit, I just can't get over the motion blur.
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Well, then its looking like LG could be using different panels in their current production.

I'm in the process of selling my unit, I just can't get over the motion blur.

You can check which panel your xxLH30 is using by going into the service menu.

Press and hold Enter on the remote and the button the side of the set for 5 seconds. Enter 0000 for the password.

Navigate to Tool Option1, and look under the Maker section. Mine says AU0.

One other cool thing I learned is that you can enable JPEG, MP3, DIVX, MKV, AVI, & Mov playback via the USB port on the back with either a USB stick or a USB harddrive. There is player built in, but deactivated via software.

To do that, goto Tool Option3 and change Divx to "HD" and set EMF(JPEG,MP3) to 1)

There's also a Bluetooth option, but appearently the xxLH30 does not have the bluetooth hardware built in. Do not enable the Bluetooth option on the xxLH30. The set will go into a on-off shutdown loop, which can be disabled if you can get into the menu quick enough to change the option and save before it shutsdown. My need to tinker got me into this quandry, but I managed to save it.

Press Return on the remote to exit and save.


I got this info from here:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/lg-ow...series-19.html

I'm a bit bummed that it seems I have an 8bit panel made by AU0. If the above link is accurate.

Lets get a running tab of which panel people have and the manufacturing date. Chime in folks.
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Here's some more info on which formats it supports via USB playback

Video:
DivX3.11, DivX4.12, DivX5.x, DivX6, Xvid1.00, Xvide1.01, Xvid1.02, Xvid1.03, Xvid 1.10-beta-1/beta-2, Mpeg-1, Mpeg-2, Mpeg-4, H.264, AVC

Audio:

AC3(Dolby Digital), EAC3, AAC, Mpeg, MP3, PCM

Subtitles:
smi/*.srt/*.sub(MicroDVD, SubViewer1.0/2.0)/*.ass/*.ssa/*.txt(TMPlayer)/*.
psb(PowerDivx)
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