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I've been looking at Samsungs (at their website, Costco, Best Buy, Amazon, Crutchfield, Frys, etc) and I've noticed these four different model numbers pop up and have trouble distinguishing them. Back with the A series I knew the 640 (or was it 630) was pretty much the same as 650 sans glossy display. Now they've got 4 models with 610/630/640 seemingly real similar. I figure the B650 is a continuation of the A650 (has slightly higher contrast ratio on paper) but the rest have me confused.

If someone could clear this mess up I'd appreciate it, especially since Samsung's own website doesn't list all four models!
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So no one knows?
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nope. so do some research and come on back and fill us in ... i'm sure someone else will appreciate your efforts.

go to the samsung lcd page, scroll down to the 6 series, click the boxes for the 3 sets you want to compare, scroll down to bottom and click the compare button. it'll give you an okay but not great comparison of the specs.
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/s...&subtype=lcdtv

go to the support button at top of page and navigate to the downloads page for the model you want and download the user's manual pdf, from which you can do some comparison of features
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/do...ortDownMain.do

try different vendor sites such as www.amazon.com www.crutchfield.com etc. often they have good descriptions


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I do know the Samsung B640 is basically a B650 that's sold exclusively by Best Buy. It has a beautiful rectangular bezel as opposed to the butt-ugly "chin" on the new B650s. I love my A650, but don't know what Samsung was thinking when they designed the B650. It has a beautiful picture, but I just can't get past that bezel. Apparently the folks at Best Buy thought the same thing and I think they will sell a ton of B640s as a result.

This isn't the first Samsung model that has been a Best Buy "exclusive."

As for the 610/630 differences, I don't know on that one.
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I do know the Samsung B640 is basically a B650 that's sold exclusively by Best Buy. It has a beautiful rectangular bezel as opposed to the butt-ugly "chin" on the new B650s. I love my A650, but don't know what Samsung was thinking when they designed the B650. It has a beautiful picture, but I just can't get past that bezel. Apparently the folks at Best Buy thought the same thing and I think they will sell a ton of B640s as a result.

This isn't the first Samsung model that has been a Best Buy "exclusive."

As for the 610/630 differences, I don't know on that one.

Thanks for not being a dick like TVbc. See, I figured it was an exclusivity thing (allows them to not have to price match). I know back with the A series 640 was matte and 650 was glossy. Here I guess 650 and 640 is just same thing (probably glossy based on specs) as is the case with 610 and 630 (same model, different numbers for different places, but the matte version of 650/640).

I guess it depends on which two BB carries and the others don't. I was curious because I see the 610 on Costco and it matches up to the 630 on BB.
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Following TVbc's instructions, here is what I found: the Samsung site is rather poor and confusing in the information it provides. The B650 has 100,00:1 dynamic contrast ratio whereas the B630 and the B610 have 80,000:1 although the B630 has something called "mega contrast."

The B650 has the "Ultra Clear Panel" the B610 does not, and the entry for the B630 is blank. All three have the unfortunate "Touch of Color" marketing silliness. The B650 has one composite AV input and the others have two. Neither the B630 or B610 have S-video inputs.

Response time for all three is 4ms and all have 120Hz and 1080p parameters. The B650 and B630 have PIP but the B610 does not. Only the B650 has 802.11 connectivity but it requires an adapter. Interestingly, the B630 has Infolink but neither of the others do. Both the B650 and the B630 have Ethernet input/output connections.

The B650 is DLNA compliant and has Internet TV as well as Content Library, which some reviewers apparently feel are lame. It is unclear if any of the TVs have USB 2.0 Movie - some areas of the Samsung site say yes and others no. I am pretty sure the B650 and the B630 have it. In general, the B610 appears to have the least of this kind of connectivity and the B650 has the most. The B610 has one USB port while the others have two.

On Amazon.com, the LN46B630 got one terrible review (two models DOA on delivery) and one 5 star review out of two reviews. One reviewer was happy that he/she didn't go with B650 as it was "too glossy for my setting." Apparently the B630 has a matte screen.

The LN40B630 received one 5 star rating out of one review, where the reviewer found it superior to the Sony KDL-40V5100 that he/she returned. Again, the non-glare screen was a hit.

The LN40B650 received mostly stellar reviews out of 17 responses. One reviewer notes that this model has no headphone jack. Another reviewer wrote the following:
DLNA- Probably one of the only reasons i got this tv over other models is because of the DLNA feature, this feature is INCREDIBLE. I've held out in buying a tv, because the majority of tv i watch is via hulu or downloaded shows. In reading some of the forums on CNET i was worried about compatability of files from divx to avi to mkv. Because of firmware possibilites I chose this tv, and I love my decision. PC Share Manager was simple to set up and to stream. My laptop had no issues connecting and streaming the material, and the system resources it took were hardly noticeable at all (<7 percent). Im running 2 gigs of memory on a Windows XP Toshiba Tecra thats 5 years old, so I'm really impressed. I played files from 480p to 720p, and the 720p mkv files were definitely flawless. The content was hi-def and it looked amazing on the TV. There were no audio lags or video cuts.

Hope that helps. I would be curious to hear if people think going to a 46" B630 is a better choice than staying with a 40" B650 for the DLNA and other features, given that their prices are similar.
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thank you for the info. this is actually very helpful to me. i was interested in the b610 until you posted this. the B610 seems to be a stripped down model in between model from the a650 to the b650. the b630 however like you said has a matted screen for improved viewing angles and the only real difference i can see aside from contrast ratio is that it does not have wireless 803.11 signal built in to pick up local wi fi signal. i will put some of my fellow AVS on notice hopefully without getting in trouble: sears has the b630 40 inch for a PHENOMENAL price. i think for similar specs and only the wi fi built in not included...it is a steal!

also do not be fooled by the super clear panel mumbo jumbo: i did a bit of research on vanns.com and all that means is that screen is not coated to extract more colors from it. basically to allow for a wider viewing angle and less reflective screen they got rid of the gloss sugar coating...which in light of the new Toshiba's i really have grown to hate.
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yeah i picked up a 40b650 at sears yesterday at a great price plus 10% cash back. I dont think we can mention prices on here but it was a great i deal i thought. love the 650 so far, Patriot on Blu-ray was incredible.
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With the b version TVs, do you have to worry about the a, s, or c panels?
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With the b version TVs, do you have to worry about the a, s, or c panels?

You have to worry about getting different panels on every display known to man kind. All manufactures have contracts with various panel producers.
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Here are some questions about the B640.

http://reviews.bestbuy.com/answers/3...a%26dir%3Ddesc
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Sounds like if you want a B650, but can't stand the red tongue and the reflections off the screen, the B640 is the way to go. OTOH, the B610 and B630 are in this class and should only be considered if you want a cheaper, stripped down, HDTV.
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Great thread!

I was interested in the 640, as it looks nicer than those others with the "chin." Can someone copy and paste some of the q&a from BB website? I'm on my Ps3 and for some reason I can't access that page. I'd really appreciate it.
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Guys,
Did we answer the original posters question?
I am wondering the difference in picture quality between these sets. We know the extras that some have and some don't but what about the picture quality?
Would it be safe to conclude that the PQ of the 610 and 630 is equal and between the 640 and 650 is equal?

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Guys,
Did we answer the original posters question?
I am wondering the difference in picture quality between these sets. We know the extras that some have and some don't but what about the picture quality?
Would it be safe to conclude that the PQ of the 610 and 630 is equal and between the 640 and 650 is equal?

Thanks

As I said before, The 640 and the 650 should have the exact same panel tech and therefore the exact same picture.
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If you are in the market for a TV check it out at BB. The price dropped again today!!! Its like they are trying to give it away.
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If you are in the market for a TV check it out at BB. [IMG]http://www.****************/img/i/P.jpg[/IMG]The price dropped again today!!! Its like they are trying to give it away.[IMG]http://***************/9/P/i.jpg[/IMG]

True but some TVs have randomly went up in price by $500-$1500 without reason imo. If you have your eyes open you can pick up a good TV from BB though.
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Great thread!

I was interested in the 640, as it looks nicer than those others with the "chin." Can someone copy and paste some of the q&a from BB website? I'm on my Ps3 and for some reason I can't access that page. I'd really appreciate it.

Q: Does this TV have the same panel as the B650?
What are the main differences between the B650 and this B640?

A: The B650 and B640 do in fact have similar panels, but the B640 is a Best Buy exclusive, has a slightly lower contrast ratio, is ToC Gray, and does not offer the Content Library, Wireless DLNA, and a Woofer. by MrSamsung - SamsungHQ

Q: What are the feature differences between the 640 and the 650?

A: The B640 is a Best Buy exclusive. It has a slightly lower contrast ratio then the B650 and the internet connectivity features of the B640 are limited to Infolink (which is similar to RSS feeds). The B650 has the complete Multimedia Suite called Medi@2.0 which includes Internet@TV (Internet Widgets from Yahoo, Flickr, Ebay, Twitter and many more), Content Library (preloaded content ranging recipes to games) and Wireless DLNA which also easy connectivity between your computer and TV. by MrSamsung - SamsungHQ

Q: How does the screen reflectivity of the B640 compare with that of the B650?

A: The screen of the B640 is actually the same material, Ultra Clear Panel, as the B650. So they will have the same reflectivity and anti-glare properties. by MrSamsung - SamsungHQ

Q: Does the LN55B640 support PIP like the LN55B650.

A: The LN55B640 does in fact support 1 tuner PiP just like the LN55B650. by MrSamsung - SamsungHQ

Q: I was told that the 550 series has a low reflective screen, are any 650 LCDs low reflective? I need a 46" for use in a room with multiple windows behind the viewers.

A: If you are looking for a 6 series with low reflective properties, look at the LN46B630. That unit does not have the Ultra Clear Panel that may cause some reflection in very bright rooms. by MrSamsung - SamsungHQ

Q: difference between samsung LN46B640 and LN46B610

A: The main differences between the B640 and the B610 are that the B640 is a Best Buy exclusive, offers infolink, the Ultra Clear Panel and USB2.0 with movie playback capabilities. The B610 is actually a Warehouse Club exclusive. by MrSamsung - SamsungHQ
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THanks Quicktoload...you state:
Q: difference between samsung LN46B640 and LN46B610

A: The main differences between the B640 and the B610 are that the B640 is a Best Buy exclusive, offers infolink, the Ultra Clear Panel and USB2.0 with movie playback capabilities. The B610 is actually a Warehouse Club exclusive. by MrSamsung - SamsungHQ

If the 610 is a Warehouse Club exclusive, does that mean the panel is made by a lower quality company? Would the PQ be lower quality or simply does it have less features and a lower contrast ratio due to the matte screen?

Thanks again
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Sweet. Thanks quicktoload, really appreciate it.
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Read through every post on this thread and nobody can clearly state what the differences are between the B610 and B630.
If someone knows, can you please post.
Thanks
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Sweet. Thanks quicktoload, really appreciate it.

Google/Yahoo is your friend to with the right search terms!
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I recently purchased the 55" B640 which I returned and got the B650. I only returned the 640 because of a problem that might not have actually been the fault of the TV (a couple times each hour the screen would go black for a few seconds. It might have been the cable service but since I couldn't tell I decided to play it safe)

The B650 cost $100 more than the B640. I purchase the 640 originally because in the store I could not tell any difference in the picture quality and figured the more recent model (the B640) would be better and I liked the design better. The B640 had beautiful colors so if not for the problem I mentioned I would not have returned it, however I am so glad I did!

Right out of the box using the dynamic settings the picture quality and colors are perfect. (on the 640 the dynamic settings were too bright) I do not know why but on the 640 when people walked across the screen their gait looked artificial. (I tried many different setings) On the 650 every movement is very smooth and natural.

I also didn't think the contrast difference would mean much but it sure does. On people with very dark skin (African Americans in particular), the shadow side of their face would appear pitch black but without any detail on the b640, however, on the 650 while the faces may not be perfectly illuminated you can see full face detail.

The 650 also offers DNLA that allows one to share computer files such as videos with the screen. I do not know how useful this feature will be but it is something else in the 650s favor.

I also have to admit that I like the bezel design on the 650 better now that I have it in my house. The 640 took up much more visual space with its wide bezel compared to the 650.

The 650 appears to me to have much less judder than the 640 (fast moving images appear to jump from point to point rather than a smooth movement)

I am surprised that I could not tell the difference between these two models in the store. I think Best Buy's sample videos do absolutely nothing to help a buyer determine which TV handles difficult lighting or movement footage better.
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What is the native resolution of B610? My TV shows a PC desktop with broken fonts at 1920x1080/60Hz. It uses an HDMI cable.
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