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Can the expert modes on the LH90 be locked to guard your settings?

No. Even better, "Picture Reset" is right below that.
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No. Even better, "Picture Reset" is right below that.

Crikey.
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My daughter (21 mos) gets the DISH DVR into all sorts of weird menus when I'm not looking She can also turn the Samsung DLP on and off at the front panel, cranking the volume to max is also a favorite. I had to get over my freakout when she runs up to the TV with her grubby hands to hug/pat/kiss the cartoons.

The controls on the LG are "hidden" behind the right side. And my moms is about 40" off the ground, so she can't reach the controls or the screen yet.

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My daughter (21 mos) gets the DISH DVR into all sorts of weird menus when I'm not looking She can also turn the Samsung DLP on and off at the front panel, cranking the volume to max is also a favorite. I had to get over my freakout when she runs up to the TV with her grubby hands to hug/pat/kiss the cartoons.

The controls on the LG are "hidden" behind the right side. And my moms is about 40" off the ground, so she can't reach the controls or the screen yet.

I have similar problems with my roommates, who happen to be 30+ years old.

Has anyone calibrated any day and night settings for the LH90 yet?
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I have similar problems with my roommates, who happen to be 30+ years old.
Has anyone calibrated any day and night settings for the LH90 yet?

For some reason I imagine your roommates running up and hugging the TV when Angelina Jolie comes on or something and that's just disturbing

What are the difference between day and night settings, out of curiosity? Are they just calibrated to 2 different nit/ftL/cdm2 levels?
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For some reason I imagine your roommates running up and hugging the TV when Angelina Jolie comes on or something and that's just disturbing

What are the difference between day and night settings, out of curiosity? Are they just calibrated to 2 different nit/ftL/cdm2 levels?

Essentially, yes, saving settings for the two seperate Expert picture modes...I noticed they did that at the Value Electronics shootout.
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When watching sports what should the settings be for Real Cinema and TruMotion 240?
I am thinking Real Cinema should be set on Off and TruMotion 240 be set to on.
I know this is a very basic question but this is my first TV in over 12 years.

What are some other setting should I be aware of to get the best picture for sporting events?

Thanks
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Yes, that had been a discrepancy in that they haven't fixed yet.

This is from their website as well.

LED Mega Contrast 2,000,000:1
LG LED technology utilizes LED lamps that individually control the level of brightness--for amazing clarity and color detail, even during fast-action sports and movie scenes, as well as for reduced power consumption. LG technology allows detailed control of over 240 levels of brightness, delivering 40 times greater contrast than a typical LCD HDTV


Also, the reps during CES stated that they have 240 zones. And there is another LG link that is an animation that says 240. Basically, last years model the LG90 had 128 zones and they clearly state that, this year, in the the LH90 they doubled that.
I will look for that link as well. I might even be in this thread somewhere.

Hmm... To me that says the LED's have 240 increments they can brighten in from 0 (off) to 239 (fully bright) and not the number of zones.
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For you that bought the TV at BB I would encourage looking at their website to see the new price -- 30 day price match guarantee
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LOL

F'n BB and their Price Match. That price did not change for the last 45 days and now it drops $400.

We took my moms TV back last week. The return of that bb.com order to the store was/is a MAJOR pain in the ass. I was in the store for 1 hr 45 min the first day and another hour 15 minutes the second day.

I still need to verify that they credited her card the $2400.

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Well it will be a major pain for me since I had a 10% coupon and did some major negotiation on top of that. I couldn't really order and ship up here so was happy with the price. With that price drop my price is borderline acceptable.... I am going in there today to see if they will split the price drop. We shall see
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Back to the zone count, this is the TV in Store Demo mode. When the show the local dimming they split the screen into half, half with picture and half with just the zones that would lit if there was picture there. Either the demo mode is a simulation or it looks like 80 zones:


EDIT: After playing with some settings, and sitting at a strong offcenter angle, I was able to light individual zones with my test application. There are without a doubt 80 of them arranged 10x8.
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Chad stopped out and calibrated another 55LH90. Hes said that this unit is his eyes is very close to the Kuro overall

Chris, you better not post the above quote over in the Kuro section unless your wearing body-armour !!!!!!!!!!!

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LOL, you may be right, but that is what he said and I did ask him to explain. I do not remember the exact words but they where close to what I stated above.
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Chris: Can you contact Chad and ask him how much his settings varied on this second set. Since he has now calibrated at least two sets it would be interesting to see how much the calibrations vary depending on the individual set.
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I just picked up this set for our LR setup as I wanted a set that was quiet (no plasma buzz), not reflective (again, rules plasma out) because of the bright room, and was decent as far as heat output/energy usage.

Anyone have any settings for this yet? It's been 19 pages and I haven't seen any yet!

It's going to be replacing a 52 inch 2.5 year old Sharp Aquos LCD. I'm excited.

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Chris: Can you contact Chad and ask him how much his settings varied on this second set. Since he has now calibrated at least two sets it would be interesting to see how much the calibrations vary depending on the individual set.

Huge differences! Some of it was due to the set itself and some to my calibration technique.

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Chad stopped out and calibrated another 55LH90. Hes said that this unit is his eyes is very close to the Kuro overall

Yes, I was even more impressed with this one than the first one. I had the chance to see this one in a totally dark room, unlike the first.
The blacks are absolutely stunning! However, because of the totally dark room I could see more glowing around objects than I did the first time around.

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I just picked up this set for our LR setup as I wanted a set that was quiet (no plasma buzz), not reflective (again, rules plasma out) because of the bright room, and was decent as far as heat output/energy usage.

Anyone have any settings for this yet? It's been 19 pages and I haven't seen any yet!

It's going to be replacing a 52 inch 2.5 year old Sharp Aquos LCD. I'm excited.

Hi Johnsteph10,

I started a settings thread at this forum:

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There are three sets of settings on there right now, so tweak away! Be aware, though, that the variances between them are substantial, indicating that Chad is on the money in observing big calibration differences between individual sets.

Yours,

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Yes, I was even more impressed with this one than the first one. I had the chance to see this one in a totally dark room, unlike the first.
The blacks are absolutely stunning! However, because of the totally dark room I could see more glowing around objects than I did the first time around.

Was the extra glowing something you tried tweaking out or just something you'd have to live with? I've got the original Chad-tweaked LH90, and I'm thrilled with the picture. There's definitely a glow here or there (I pointed out noticing a glow around the duck in Kung Fu Panda when the duck sees the bad guy for the first time...probably the only one I've noticed so far) in pitch black, but I'm thrilled with the picture.
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Chris, you better not post the above quote over in the Kuro section unless your wearing body-armour !!!!!!!!!!!

Regards,

Hey, I have a Kuro and even I like this LED. I have a calibrated ISF Day mode on my set but I have no doubt that the LH90 would look beautiful during daytime viewing as well. Even CNet put this set up there with the best of them.

I would like to have both! (if only I had the extra money)

Chad B: If calibrated, how just how bright could the LH90 be while maintaining it's grayscale? The ISF Day on my 111 is set at 53ftl I believe.
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Bought in Best buy(only on website) then picked up from local bb distribution warehouse in North Tx.. they will not have it in store for a while is what i was told.. Dont have a camera anymore exgirlfriend took it.. go to websites below to see what it looks like it, actually looks way better in person..
just go to best buy.com or abt.com to see pics.. Maybe i can get a pic up soon..Got it friday 22nd may

I live in N. Texas. Any chance the 55" is going to show up on the floors at a local Best Buy? I didn't see it at the Lewisville store last week.
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I confirmed with a lg rep today that the lh90 has 80 zones, the step up version (lh95 I think?) will have at least 200.
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I am looking at the 55lh90 and also considering the pn58b650 tc-p54v10 and ln52a750. What would everyone here recomend, chad what about you what are your thoughts
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Sorry I meant ln52b750
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I live in LA area and just saw the 55" LH90 at Best Buys on display, albeit with only a Blu-Ray hook-up and no HD or SD TV signal. Image was awesome, frame and overall design of the display was less than impressive (IMHO). Really chunky with a lot of plastic, compared to Samsung 55" models. Having said that, the matte screen is really nice if you have a bright family room as I do. Since the image controls on this display are so thorough, and the PQ is outstanding, I'm now really curious about their wireless thin LED display that showed up in Europe recently and is due here fairly soon.
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Hey, I have a Kuro and even I like this LED. I have a calibrated ISF Day mode on my set but I have no doubt that the LH90 would look beautiful during daytime viewing as well. Even CNet put this set up there with the best of them.

I would like to have both! (if only I had the extra money)

Chad B: If calibrated, how just how bright could the LH90 be while maintaining it's grayscale? The ISF Day on my 111 is set at 53ftl I believe.

It can go very high. I have not pushed it that high to check, but I wouldn't be surprised if it could go above 90 ftl with no significant compromise.

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Yes, I was even more impressed with this one than the first one. I had the chance to see this one in a totally dark room, unlike the first.
The blacks are absolutely stunning! However, because of the totally dark room I could see more glowing around objects than I did the first time around.

I'm curious as to how bad you thought the glowing was.

Also, how good is the judder reduction, the fast motion, and the cleaning up of a standard definition signal on the LH90? If these are good and the glowing isn't too big of a deal, I'll probably buy this tv.

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