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post #1 of 11 Old 12-25-2009, 09:55 PM - Thread Starter
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I've been using an ugly RP RCA 52" D52W20 for the last 6 years. I feel it's time to take the jump now that prices for LCD panels have stabilized.

I've been sitting at about 15' while viewing the 52" panel, so I'm planning on moving around furniture and sitting within 8' - 10' so that I can get used to watching a 46".

The panel will primarily be used for gaming. With the occasional movie being popped in.

PQ is important, I just don't know how to judge this when I'm looking at models online. Is there not a website that compares the PQ of all sets that get brought out onto the market? Something like dpreview for cameras.

I don't care for any of the superfluous features such as ethernet and USB connectivity. Everything I watch and play will be from my PS3 and at times streamed through my PC by the PS3.

I understand that Sony has the best MotionFlow and what not, but that is not what I want 120Hz for. In fact, I can't stand what it does to film. I'm more interested in getting dejuddered 24p playback and no blur during gaming. As well as experiencing BluRay in 3D.

Gaming:
Fast Response Time (6MS or lower?)
No Input Lag
No Ghosting

Movies:
1080P
"True 24P"
120Hz (Do I want this? Is it necessary for true 24P playback?)

Here are the models I'm looking at, please advise.
  • Sony Bravia 46" S-Series KDL46S504 - $799.99 @ 2001 A&V
  • Samsung 46" 5- Series LN46B530 (Is there a lottery with this set? I've read something about S, A and C.) - $899.99 @ 2001 A&V
  • Insignia 46" NS-L46Q120-10A - $799.99 @ FS
  • LG 47" 47LF21 - $899.99 @ BB

    or is the following bundle a better deal? (I already have a 5.1 home theatre, but I like the standing speakers)

  • Sony Bravia 46" V-Series KDLSV5100 + Sony Bravia Home Theatre 5.1 DAVHDZ485 - $1299 @ 2001 A&V
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stay away from the insignia its going to be the worst TV of the bunch and have pretty bad input lag, the sony and samsung are both pretty comparable either will be a pretty good TV but your wish of no input lag will not happen on either set, they will have about 30-45 ms input lag, my TV has this same amount of lag does not bother me but some people say it bothers them in FPS games (yes i play FPS games i use my TV as a PC monitor)

If you're a gamer or interested in using an LCD TV as a primary monitor take a look at my thread on Input Lag
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just to let you know no TV out now has a true 0 input lag on any mode... but dependent on the user a certain number can be 'like' having no input lag.

Yes you want 120hz or higher TV to take advantage of having even pulldown for 24fps movies (5:5 pulldown etc.) just have the amp or motionflow off.

PQ is dependent on the user but most likely sony and samsung is way better than the insignia.

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Insignia's reliability is very poor. Best Buy had a recall not very long ago on some Insignias (Best Buy store brand).
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I'm more interested in getting dejuddered 24p playback and no blur during gaming. As well as experiencing BluRay in 3D.

Blu-ray in 3D? Good luck with that...

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Tv's are very tuff to buy. All LCD's have motion blur. You can't get away from it. I have yet to see any LCD perform as well as a Plasma for this expecially gaming and fast moving anything.

Now Sony and Samsung have come light years over the years with there technology with LCD. There sets are as close to Plasma performance I have ever seen. It's really close but if you watch a Panasonic Plasma for Blur and then go to a LCD, you will notice the difference. Still Images are amazing on both Sony and Samsung. I favor the Sony XBR's over the Samsung 8000 series as I find the Sony's to look more real. Samsung tends in my opinion to look a but fake or cartoon like.

I suggest looking at Panasonic Plasma's before you purchase a LCD.
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How much of the "motion blur" is signal related? I purchased a LG 42LH20 and haven't noticed it on ordinary OTA signals. Is this primarily an issue with highly compressed signals?
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How much of the "motion blur" is signal related? I purchased a LG 42LH20 and haven't noticed it on ordinary OTA signals. Is this primarily an issue with highly compressed signals?

Have you watched any rapid motion events, OTA, such as NASCAR events, or Ice Hockey?

If you have, and have not witnessed any image blurring, then it may very well be a compressed signal issue.

How about DVDs or Blu-Rays; how does it handle them? Have you experienced any audio synch problems when playing them. I have seen some reports of some people experiencing such problems with some LG LCD models.
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DVD's looks great, don't have a Blu-Ray player. There does seem to be some slight audio sync issues on some channels. For the $450 I paid on a 42" LCD I'm not complaining
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For your price range a Panasonic S1 plasma would probably be about 5X better for what you intend to use it for.

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I just purchased a 46 in Samsung Series 7 750 and was astonished to learn I could not control the audio out with my Samsung remote. On my old Panasonic I could be not on the Samsung. Had I know that I would of purchased the Sony XBR9 which does have variable audio out.
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