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I wonder why the 55" c630s have been released but the 46" have not?? I want my TV!!! Does anyone know when the 46C630s will ship??

We just got ours in today
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We just got ours in today

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I currently have a deposit on a 55C8000 from abt for less than that price
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We just got ours in today

the 55"? from where and how much?
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I'm not comfortable with buying big screen TV online. What if the TV has a problem, how would you ship it back?
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^^^ After a store fronts return policy is over, one is on his own anyway.

--All maufacturers offer in home service on units above 32". A manufacturer will send a tech out and fix or replace a persons set for free

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the 55"? from where and how much?

LN46C630
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are out, along with many other models.
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Does anyone know when the 40" C6300/C6500 will finaly be released? Damn waiting time.
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Amazon just cut their price on the 46C630 by over $100. That seems kind of weird, but I like it.
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So is that $2799 the for the UN46C8000 the "official" MSRP? Or is that just the price that the store is selling it for.

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^^^ After a store fronts return policy is over, one is on his own anyway.

--All maufacturers offer in home service on units above 32". A manufacturer will send a tech out and fix or replace a persons set for free

Panasonic has changed their 2010 warranty terms to make sets 42" and smaller require carry-in service.

It's one of the those lesser details in the fine print, but material to those who lack the means or desire to haul a TV to and fro.

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LN46C630
LN55C630

Any impressions to offer on the 2010 630 line?
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I posted this in another thread but it seems like I'll have more luck asking here:

Hey guys, just a quick question/concern about the LN40C550.

I was actually all set to order the B550 last night, but I realized that the 2010 series of TVs was probably right on the horizon. I see that the C550 is cheaper than the B550 on Amazon because it's on sale. Does anyone know how long the TV should be at that price? I'm a little hesitant to order it today since it hasn't been reviewed by anyone yet. How confident can I be that the C550 is at least on par with the B550 in terms of PQ and stuff like that? I'm really not sure how many changes are made to a specific TV from year to year.

Also, I can't find the full list of specs anywhere. Does anyone know how many component inputs this TV is going to have? That's the other thing I'm a little hesitant about. The Amazon description mentions 4 HDMI inputs, but nothing about component.
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So does this list confirm 650 is highest grade 40" CCFL for all of 2010? I can't fit bigger and have been waiting to get the 40B750.
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What are the technical differences between B650 and C650? I haven't seen a spec sheet for the C series.

I can get (what I consider) a good deal on the B650, but don't know if it's worth it to wait or not.
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Most if not all of the C series sets have their manuals posted in the support section of the samsung site. Here is the link for the 46C650, which should cover the 6 series.

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/se...0&find_button=

I haven't seen much info on panel differences, main things seem to be a slight bezel change and an update of the tv apps to include netflix and pandora.
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How confident can I be that the C550 is at least on par with the B550 in terms of PQ and stuff like that?

You can't be confident at all. Even though it's not likely there will be any downgrades in contrast ratio, the number of inputs, etc., I still think it would be a mistake to buy online before you know the actual specs. It does seem a bit suspicious that C550s are being priced hundreds less than equivalent B550 models.
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What are the technical differences between B650 and C650? I haven't seen a spec sheet for the C series.

I can get (what I consider) a good deal on the B650, but don't know if it's worth it to wait or not.


I had good deal for the B650 at took it Now I'm happy with the safed money. I don't think Samsung will dramatically improve the nonLED-TVs like they did from A650 to B 650. There isn't much more space for improvements IMHO. Samsung concentrates on LED (even in the new sets with flashlights ) and 3D
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I was hoping to get the 65C8000, but no way will I pay 5k. I have no problem waiting for the price to drop. Somewhere I thought I saw the retail price was around 4.5k anyway.
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I was in Wilmington, NC today and stopped by a HHgregg store for the hell of it to see if they had any new models. They were actually just taking them out of the boxs. So I ran some erands and came back a few hours later to check them out. I have to say they look a lot better than the B models as far as looks of the sets themselves, especially the bezel. But the stand is still not for me. It isn't as bad as I thought it would be from some of the pics, but still not my fav. They actually had the new Cs right next to the Bs, and I played with both. I really really tried my best to see the bright corners and flashlighting that people posted about before and couldn't. And I really did everything to make it happen. They have a good "expert" test screen in the options menu, and I used that since it is very black in the top left, as well as playing with other channels. I played with every setting I could think of like gamma, brightness, backlight, etc. I even took my jacket off and put it over the set and my head so it was completly dark, and I didn't see the horrible flashlighting described before.

What I did see was that the out of the box color and pic isn't that great. Its ok, but on the showroom "dynamic" or whatever I could tell a huge difference instantly as soon as I switched that to another setting. They had the 46c7000 and 46c6500 side by side, so I played with both. Also played with the 55" just a bit, but it look just as good, only bigger.

Also have to say the remote is pretty good, and I like it a lot better than the '08 and '09 remotes. I'm talking about the brushed aluminum back-lite one that comes with the 7000 and 8000. The one with the 6500 didn't look anything special.

The salesman was annoying as hell, but before I left I asked about the 8000, and he said it wasn't in his system (he went to look), and also nothing about the touch screen remote that comes with the 9000 that you can also buy separately for the 7000 and 8000.

Bottom line is I'm sure some hard core av-aholics will find a tiny bit more light at the edges, or something else to complain about when comparing it to a Kuro or maybe even the 8500, but 90+% of people looking for a new TV are going to really like this set.

Just for the heck of it here is a link:
Samsung 46" Class 3D 1080p 240Hz LED HDTV with 4 HDMI™ Inputs (45.9" actual diagonal size)
I didn't even look at the prices, just the TVs, so I don't know how they compare.
Also, I wouldn't buy from Bestbuy, but I did call them and they don't have any of the new sets, and don't know when they will.
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Is the C650 Glossy Screen?

Is the C630 Glossy Screen?

I's got to know.


I saw the C630 today and it is glossy.
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I saw the UN55C7000 at Best Buy today; it was just taken out of the box. It was installed between the UN55B6000 and the new Sony 60" KDL-60EX700. The C7000 was at factory settings, but the B6000 and the Sony were probably tweaked to who knows what...

Picture quality of the C7000 looked better than B6000; it just looked sharper overall. It seemed to have better shadow detail and the colors looked more vivid. The Sony's picture looked really blurry and washed out by comparison to both Sammys (I thought there was something wrong with that set actually but I didn't check how it was set up, it was definitely HD image though as I can tell that much).

I did see flashlighting in the corners when looking at a movie that had black bars. It was clearly noticeable even with the store's bright lighting.

The bezel design was a bit conflicting to my taste. It actually has a slight brownish color to it which, when combined with the shiny chrome trim around and below, makes the set look like some old retro equipment, and at the same time the narrow bezel looks ultra-modern. It was just weird to me but YMMV. When you look at the screen with its deep blacks, the brownish bezel color really starts to stand out. While the B6000 has this red tone that isn't that bad, the brown is just bizarre like it's made out of wood or something. Man, if Samsung had just made the bezel black that would have been a winner.
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I am interested in the new 3D technology of the 65C8000, having a 55B8000, which has the best 3D effect and picture quality I've ever seen by far. I've also never seen any light seepage from the edges of my set in any/dark lighting or with black bars from bluray. The bigger 65" is also of interest.

Has anyone seen the new 3D on the new Sammy's? How does it compare to the RealD Dolby Digital 3D with Avatar in the theaters? I found that effect amazing. And is the picture quality/brightness/contrast the same (or near) as the 240Hz standard/standard of the B8000 under 3D?

I'm hoping for another level of breakthrough picture quality effect from the new 3D, comparable to breakthrough 'window on the world' effect Samsung's B8000 had over previous technologies.
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Any one seen a LN55C630 or LN55c650? Are they using the "s" panels on any of them?
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What is the difference between the c9000 and c8000? I was taking a look at them on abt and comparing them and I couldn't figure it out. Except the c8000 is 65" grey $5k and the c9000 is 55" titanium $7k. What am I missing?
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C9000 is the ultra-thin model (pencil-thickness). Edge-lit. Electronics are at its base that doubles as a mount. You pay premium for the cutting-edge styling, not for PQ.

C8000 is thicker, but it has pin-point dimming feature (whatever that means), probably comparable to the B8500 local dimming. It will provide better contrast and black levels than edge-lit. Electronics are in the main unit.

Neither are released yet so nobody has seen them in stores.
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Thanks. I'll stick with the larger, cheaper C8000. I can't wait to see one in a store though.
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^^^ After a store fronts return policy is over, one is on his own anyway.

--All maufacturers offer in home service on units above 32". A manufacturer will send a tech out and fix or replace a persons set for free



LN46C630
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are out, along with many other models.


What actual stores have the 55"c630 I havent seen it anywhere besides amazon.
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Was in HH Gregg in Cary NC today. They had a 46C630 on display. It did not have a glossy screen. The screen was semi-gloss, or semi-matte. Seemed to be the exact same screen as last year's B630. Had an SQ panel.
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I was in HHGregg for a little while tonight and took a good look at the UN55C7000 and it looked pretty good to me. I thought the blacks on the tv looked really good and I didn't see any light leaking in from the sides, but the room was not dark. It was with regular store lighting. I looked at Iron Man on bluray and it looked really good. Seemed like a fairly big picture upgrade from my current TV (52 Inch A650).

I am tempted to buy one, but I really want to wait on two thing:

1. Seeing a 3d demo of the tv first when the glasses come out.
2. Wait to see the 8000.
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I thought the blacks on the tv looked really good and I didn't see any light leaking in from the sides, but the room was not dark.

aren't the new C series LED LCD's from Samsung only "edge lit" from top and bottom?
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There is the 2nd review now.

And it's a premature review, until people have had the chance to evaluate the 3d glasses in routine day to day viewing. It will be interesting to see how artifact free the 2d to 3d conversion is, considering how easy it is to miss-use conventional AMP settings. I do however, have high hopes.

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